XI and new rims
09-12-2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bambi' post='333508' date='Sep 12 2006, 03:28 AM
I have 19"x8.5 rims on my 530xi and using 245/35/19 tires all around. The offset I believe is 43mm. This combination works fine on the car except I will get some rubbing when turning the steering all the way to one side like making a U-turn. But hey, how often will you turn the wheels all the way!
Now are the bad parts. Because the offset of the rim is so high for the XI model, the lip on the wheel will be much thinner than what you would expect. And because of the slight rubbing, it's not possible to lower the car to eliminate the big gap between the fender and the tire.
And lastly, be sure to have the same wheel and tire size all around because the AWD system wouldn't work perfectly if you go staggered.
I've promised some members here before that I will post some pics of my car but I was too lazy. I promise I'll do that in this couple of days!
Now are the bad parts. Because the offset of the rim is so high for the XI model, the lip on the wheel will be much thinner than what you would expect. And because of the slight rubbing, it's not possible to lower the car to eliminate the big gap between the fender and the tire.
And lastly, be sure to have the same wheel and tire size all around because the AWD system wouldn't work perfectly if you go staggered.
I've promised some members here before that I will post some pics of my car but I was too lazy. I promise I'll do that in this couple of days!
Decided on the Axis Penta 19's. Figured the replica's were not worth the hassle. Plus, I like the mesh look better. Offset is ET 35 with 19x8.5 @ all 4 corners. Per the offset calculator, I'm looking at 2mm MORE inner clearance (instead of less if I were to do 40 or higher) and 14mm of outer clearance. I talked to the distributor and they guaranteed me no rubbing. If it does, they will take back the wheels even after they are mounted and driven on. They said they did an E60 XI and the driver reported no rubbing. I also spoke to H&R and they said their new lowering springs were tested with 19's, as well as, 18's and 17's. Still no rubbing. The key was having a lower offset than 43 since I'm going to an 8.5" width from an 8" width. I'll let you know how it goes.
Oh, and for all you xi owners considering staggered set ups, it's not recommended. I know the X5 4.8 has it that way, but it's not suggested for our cars. Don't ask me why, but a number of dealers don't suggest it for Audi or BMW.
09-12-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cmansbimmer' post='333915' date='Sep 13 2006, 12:00 AM
Hey Bambi,
Decided on the Axis Penta 19's. Figured the replica's were not worth the hassle. Plus, I like the mesh look better. Offset is ET 35 with 19x8.5 @ all 4 corners. Per the offset calculator, I'm looking at 2mm MORE inner clearance (instead of less if I were to do 40 or higher) and 14mm of outer clearance. I talked to the distributor and they guaranteed me no rubbing. If it does, they will take back the wheels even after they are mounted and driven on. They said they did an E60 XI and the driver reported no rubbing. I also spoke to H&R and they said their new lowering springs were tested with 19's, as well as, 18's and 17's. Still no rubbing. The key was having a lower offset than 43 since I'm going to an 8.5" width from an 8" width. I'll let you know how it goes.
Oh, and for all you xi owners considering staggered set ups, it's not recommended. I know the X5 4.8 has it that way, but it's not suggested for our cars. Don't ask me why, but a number of dealers don't suggest it for Audi or BMW.
Decided on the Axis Penta 19's. Figured the replica's were not worth the hassle. Plus, I like the mesh look better. Offset is ET 35 with 19x8.5 @ all 4 corners. Per the offset calculator, I'm looking at 2mm MORE inner clearance (instead of less if I were to do 40 or higher) and 14mm of outer clearance. I talked to the distributor and they guaranteed me no rubbing. If it does, they will take back the wheels even after they are mounted and driven on. They said they did an E60 XI and the driver reported no rubbing. I also spoke to H&R and they said their new lowering springs were tested with 19's, as well as, 18's and 17's. Still no rubbing. The key was having a lower offset than 43 since I'm going to an 8.5" width from an 8" width. I'll let you know how it goes.
Oh, and for all you xi owners considering staggered set ups, it's not recommended. I know the X5 4.8 has it that way, but it's not suggested for our cars. Don't ask me why, but a number of dealers don't suggest it for Audi or BMW.
Hope that will work for you. 
09-13-2006, 05:43 AM
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cmansbimmer, I like the look you're going for. Good luck and keep us posted.
Audi has always said use identical wheels all 4 corners. I can't remember if BMW also does so, it doesn seem off the X5 allows for stagger but there are differnt types of AWD set-ups, perhaps BMW's is more able to manage that?
Audi has always said use identical wheels all 4 corners. I can't remember if BMW also does so, it doesn seem off the X5 allows for stagger but there are differnt types of AWD set-ups, perhaps BMW's is more able to manage that?
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Originally Posted by VIIV' post='334016' date='Sep 13 2006, 09:43 AM
cmansbimmer, I like the look you're going for. Good luck and keep us posted.
Audi has always said use identical wheels all 4 corners. I can't remember if BMW also does so, it doesn seem off the X5 allows for stagger but there are differnt types of AWD set-ups, perhaps BMW's is more able to manage that?
Audi has always said use identical wheels all 4 corners. I can't remember if BMW also does so, it doesn seem off the X5 allows for stagger but there are differnt types of AWD set-ups, perhaps BMW's is more able to manage that?
I just rejexed my car last week, so now all I need to do is give it a good cleaning and I'll take some shots and upload them this weekend. Stay tuned...
09-15-2006, 03:49 AM
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I'm not sure how dealers can say that the XI's can't/shouldn't run staggered wheels. BMW lists the Style 124's in a staggered configuration for the 530XI.
Part Numbers are:
Front: 36116767541 8 x 18 43mm offset
Rear: 36116767542 9 x 18 55mm offset
Part Numbers are:
Front: 36116767541 8 x 18 43mm offset
Rear: 36116767542 9 x 18 55mm offset
09-15-2006, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertB' post='334731' date='Sep 15 2006, 05:49 AM
I'm not sure how dealers can say that the XI's can't/shouldn't run staggered wheels. BMW lists the Style 124's in a staggered configuration for the 530XI.
Part Numbers are:
Front: 36116767541 8 x 18 43mm offset
Rear: 36116767542 9 x 18 55mm offset
Part Numbers are:
Front: 36116767541 8 x 18 43mm offset
Rear: 36116767542 9 x 18 55mm offset
09-18-2006, 08:48 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure you can run staggered, but like 2ManyCars said, he had to have custom wheels done with the exact offset specs needed. For the front, that would be 43 and for the rear, that would be 55. Outside of OEM 18's (Style 124), I couldn't find any manufacturers that had this size readily available. Everything would have to be custom ordered (not cheap).
I've always had the question in my head as to why the X5 4.8 Sport runs staggered and we can't. Never made sense to me.
Regardless though, I've decided to stick with 19x8.5 at all 4 corners. I'll just push the rears out with some H&R 10mm spacers.
I've always had the question in my head as to why the X5 4.8 Sport runs staggered and we can't. Never made sense to me.
Regardless though, I've decided to stick with 19x8.5 at all 4 corners. I'll just push the rears out with some H&R 10mm spacers.
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Originally Posted by cmansbimmer' post='335786' date='Sep 18 2006, 10:48 AM
Yeah, I'm sure you can run staggered, but like 2ManyCars said, he had to have custom wheels done with the exact offset specs needed. For the front, that would be 43 and for the rear, that would be 55. Outside of OEM 18's (Style 124), I couldn't find any manufacturers that had this size readily available. Everything would have to be custom ordered (not cheap).
I've always had the question in my head as to why the X5 4.8 Sport runs staggered and we can't. Never made sense to me.
Regardless though, I've decided to stick with 19x8.5 at all 4 corners. I'll just push the rears out with some H&R 10mm spacers.
I've always had the question in my head as to why the X5 4.8 Sport runs staggered and we can't. Never made sense to me.
Regardless though, I've decided to stick with 19x8.5 at all 4 corners. I'll just push the rears out with some H&R 10mm spacers.
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Originally Posted by blinkme_210' post='338646' date='Sep 26 2006, 02:24 AM
Let us know how that goes. Cause the front slight rubbing with 8.5" width on Bambi's wheels is enough to hold me off from purchasing my set of 19x8.5 M5 replicas.
They also come 74.1mm outside hub diameter, which is perfect for the "xi" (no so perfect for other 5-series models, which need hubcentric rings to increase the 72.56 outside diameter).