Seriously, $2400 for a cat back exhaust?
04-30-2010, 05:19 PM
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04-30-2010, 05:23 PM
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04-30-2010, 05:25 PM
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My Ride: 2004 jet black 530I, M-tech body kit, ac shnitzer roof and trunk spoiler. kelleners sport exhaust and pully kit on its way from germany.
04-30-2010, 05:25 PM
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My Ride: Current: '08 535i
Recent BMW:
'95 M3 (swapped)
Engine-
Swapped '95 S50 with '99 S52 3.2L bored/stroked to 3.3L, kept OBD1
JE Pistons (9.0:1 compression ratio)
Pauter connecting rods
Schrick Camshafts
Vortech V2 w/ custom bypass valve
RMS Aftercooler
Head modifications Ported and Polished, large valve springs and retainers,
Valves Yes, but don't know name
Valve springs Yes, but don't know name
Retainers Yes, but don't know name
Electromotive TEC III stand alone engine management, tuned by Vic Sias of Sias Tuning
S50 Intake manifold
Dinan Throttle Body
42lb Fuel injectors
Custom RMS air intake
RMS Header
Custom header-back exhaust
Quad exit rolled tips, polished exhaust
High flow catalytic converter
NGK Spark plugs
B&M short shift kit
Centerforce Dual Friction clutch
Odyssey PC 680 Lightweight Battery
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House of Kolor Moondust Silver
Custom 1.5" flares molded into body
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Front wheels 19x8.5 BBS CH wrapped in 245/35/19 Yokahama AVS
Rear wheels 19x9.5 BBS CH wrapped in 275/30/19 Yokohama AVS
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HP Racing 15" Rotor
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Front springs/coilovers (brand) H&R Coilovers (adjustable)
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Front RD Adjustable Sway bar
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Sparco Front strut brace (adjustable)
Energy Bushings
NuFormz Chassis reinforcements (custom)
Powerflex (brand new less than 1K miles)
The problem is that you didn't come at this thread with a real question. You came out it clearly stating that there was no way the exhaust cost that much to make, that for its price it should be made of something stronger or lighter and that RPI just charges whatever people are willing to pay. You questioned not only their manufacturing process but also the ethics of their economics and therefore their business and those who work for them.
Maybe you didnt mean to come at it that way but you did so Eloy obviously took it as an attack on the hard labor of his product, which it seemed that way to me and a bunch of other members.
Everything that RPI makes so far has been a well engineered, crafted system that outperforms all the competition so far. They have set a new standard, at a relatively low price.
If you had said "Wow this seems expensive, why does this exhaust cost this price?" then Eloy would have given you tons of examples and information to show you how its made, how it performs and how other systems that are priced the same and sometimes even more dont even compare to it.
We've all given you tons of reasons why it costs as much as it does, and backed it up with the costs of the materials and basic manufacturing principles given the niche market and current economy.
Either buy the exhaust or stop bitching about how it costs so much while youre not buying it anyway
Maybe you didnt mean to come at it that way but you did so Eloy obviously took it as an attack on the hard labor of his product, which it seemed that way to me and a bunch of other members.
Everything that RPI makes so far has been a well engineered, crafted system that outperforms all the competition so far. They have set a new standard, at a relatively low price.
If you had said "Wow this seems expensive, why does this exhaust cost this price?" then Eloy would have given you tons of examples and information to show you how its made, how it performs and how other systems that are priced the same and sometimes even more dont even compare to it.
We've all given you tons of reasons why it costs as much as it does, and backed it up with the costs of the materials and basic manufacturing principles given the niche market and current economy.
Either buy the exhaust or stop bitching about how it costs so much while youre not buying it anyway
04-30-2010, 05:28 PM
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My Ride: 2004 jet black 530I, M-tech body kit, ac shnitzer roof and trunk spoiler. kelleners sport exhaust and pully kit on its way from germany.
Hey Eloy whats the military discount for your 04 530I tune
04-30-2010, 05:29 PM
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My Ride: Current: '08 535i
Recent BMW:
'95 M3 (swapped)
Engine-
Swapped '95 S50 with '99 S52 3.2L bored/stroked to 3.3L, kept OBD1
JE Pistons (9.0:1 compression ratio)
Pauter connecting rods
Schrick Camshafts
Vortech V2 w/ custom bypass valve
RMS Aftercooler
Head modifications Ported and Polished, large valve springs and retainers,
Valves Yes, but don't know name
Valve springs Yes, but don't know name
Retainers Yes, but don't know name
Electromotive TEC III stand alone engine management, tuned by Vic Sias of Sias Tuning
S50 Intake manifold
Dinan Throttle Body
42lb Fuel injectors
Custom RMS air intake
RMS Header
Custom header-back exhaust
Quad exit rolled tips, polished exhaust
High flow catalytic converter
NGK Spark plugs
B&M short shift kit
Centerforce Dual Friction clutch
Odyssey PC 680 Lightweight Battery
Exterior-
House of Kolor Moondust Silver
Custom 1.5" flares molded into body
Trim painted and molded into fender flares
Dresmann body kit from Germany (front bumper, sideskirts, rear bumper)
Kerscher 3 piece CF spoiler - imported from Germany
CF side mirrors
DTM Authaus CF vented hood
Lighting-
Gourmet Garage HID's
Umnitza Angel Eyes
OEM Euro tails
Clear corners
Interior-
Seats Sparco Torino
Alcantara door panel inserts silver
Brand new OEM ///M3 floor mats
Carbon Fiber interior trim pieces
Autometer Pro-Comp Boost Gauge
Autometer Pro-Comp AFR Gauge
New silver/black ///M3 shift knob
Custom trunk floor with amps mounted in bottom
OMP Racing black suede steering wheel
Valentine One hardwire kit/windshield mount
Car Audio-
Eclipse Head Unit (w/ sub control)
Two Diamond Audio Amplifiers
Diamond Audio mids, highs in car
Two 15" Diamond Audio free air Subs in trunk
Street Wires wiring
Wheels/Tires, Brakes
Front wheels 19x8.5 BBS CH wrapped in 245/35/19 Yokahama AVS
Rear wheels 19x9.5 BBS CH wrapped in 275/30/19 Yokohama AVS
Stainless Steel brake lines
New PBR Metal Master pads in front (less than 500mi)
HP Racing 15" Rotor
HP Racing 8 Piston Caliper
Suspension components-
Front springs/coilovers (brand) H&R Coilovers (adjustable)
Bilstein front dampers
Rear springs/coilovers (brand) H&R Cupkit (adjustable)
Bilstein rear dampers
Total lowering (inches) (front) 1-3"
Front RD Adjustable Sway bar
Rear RD Adjustable Sway bar
Sparco Front strut brace (adjustable)
Energy Bushings
NuFormz Chassis reinforcements (custom)
Powerflex (brand new less than 1K miles)
04-30-2010, 05:32 PM
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My Ride: Current: '08 535i
Recent BMW:
'95 M3 (swapped)
Engine-
Swapped '95 S50 with '99 S52 3.2L bored/stroked to 3.3L, kept OBD1
JE Pistons (9.0:1 compression ratio)
Pauter connecting rods
Schrick Camshafts
Vortech V2 w/ custom bypass valve
RMS Aftercooler
Head modifications Ported and Polished, large valve springs and retainers,
Valves Yes, but don't know name
Valve springs Yes, but don't know name
Retainers Yes, but don't know name
Electromotive TEC III stand alone engine management, tuned by Vic Sias of Sias Tuning
S50 Intake manifold
Dinan Throttle Body
42lb Fuel injectors
Custom RMS air intake
RMS Header
Custom header-back exhaust
Quad exit rolled tips, polished exhaust
High flow catalytic converter
NGK Spark plugs
B&M short shift kit
Centerforce Dual Friction clutch
Odyssey PC 680 Lightweight Battery
Exterior-
House of Kolor Moondust Silver
Custom 1.5" flares molded into body
Trim painted and molded into fender flares
Dresmann body kit from Germany (front bumper, sideskirts, rear bumper)
Kerscher 3 piece CF spoiler - imported from Germany
CF side mirrors
DTM Authaus CF vented hood
Lighting-
Gourmet Garage HID's
Umnitza Angel Eyes
OEM Euro tails
Clear corners
Interior-
Seats Sparco Torino
Alcantara door panel inserts silver
Brand new OEM ///M3 floor mats
Carbon Fiber interior trim pieces
Autometer Pro-Comp Boost Gauge
Autometer Pro-Comp AFR Gauge
New silver/black ///M3 shift knob
Custom trunk floor with amps mounted in bottom
OMP Racing black suede steering wheel
Valentine One hardwire kit/windshield mount
Car Audio-
Eclipse Head Unit (w/ sub control)
Two Diamond Audio Amplifiers
Diamond Audio mids, highs in car
Two 15" Diamond Audio free air Subs in trunk
Street Wires wiring
Wheels/Tires, Brakes
Front wheels 19x8.5 BBS CH wrapped in 245/35/19 Yokahama AVS
Rear wheels 19x9.5 BBS CH wrapped in 275/30/19 Yokohama AVS
Stainless Steel brake lines
New PBR Metal Master pads in front (less than 500mi)
HP Racing 15" Rotor
HP Racing 8 Piston Caliper
Suspension components-
Front springs/coilovers (brand) H&R Coilovers (adjustable)
Bilstein front dampers
Rear springs/coilovers (brand) H&R Cupkit (adjustable)
Bilstein rear dampers
Total lowering (inches) (front) 1-3"
Front RD Adjustable Sway bar
Rear RD Adjustable Sway bar
Sparco Front strut brace (adjustable)
Energy Bushings
NuFormz Chassis reinforcements (custom)
Powerflex (brand new less than 1K miles)
in your OP you stated the exhaust gives 10hp gains...what exactly is that worth to you? Or what should a $2400 exhaust put down/do for you? Again, there are not many other 535i exhaust systems out there with such proven gains.....so I ask again as you looking for sounds? performance? both?
BTW: here's the dyno https://5series.net/forums/topic/749..._1#entry847118
BTW: here's the dyno https://5series.net/forums/topic/749..._1#entry847118
I must have got that from this "crash course" in business economics from this thread.
Every car I've had since I was 16 has had mods...exhaust being one of the first. So, it's an important mod to me.