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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='535999' date='Feb 25 2008, 05:53 PM
My E63 is optimized for 93 octane so putting in 91 is retarding the engine a little bit.
I guess that's my main question - are the E60 engines (especially the V8's & turbo I-6) and factory ECU mapping optimized for 93, as it is readilly available as premium in many places, or are they designed/optimized for 91? In essence, are we 91 users living with retarded timing simply because our standard fuel offerings dictate it? I guess this burning curiosity won't be quelched until I take the time to stop by Bob Jennings in North Hills for a before/after dyno...
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I believe what Vegastrashed meant to say was that his car is optimized for 93 octane because of his software remap.
From what I understand, most cars from the factory have a range of tolerance built into their operational software to account for a variety of usage conditions from the consumer. This is where tuners write software that narrows those tolerances and try to extract more power based on better fuel..etc..
But I do understand your question about how our car's performance is measured as I'm also curious. Specifications aside, I had always believed that the same car in a different state that sells 93 octane can probably slightly out perform our car here in CA.
From what I understand, most cars from the factory have a range of tolerance built into their operational software to account for a variety of usage conditions from the consumer. This is where tuners write software that narrows those tolerances and try to extract more power based on better fuel..etc..
But I do understand your question about how our car's performance is measured as I'm also curious. Specifications aside, I had always believed that the same car in a different state that sells 93 octane can probably slightly out perform our car here in CA.
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='535876' date='Feb 25 2008, 12:52 PM
I just hope I see my ECU again. ![Frown](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/sad.gif)
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Originally Posted by KnIgHtCoM' post='536035' date='Feb 25 2008, 07:14 PM
Hah... Federico laggin' extra hard again? ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/rolleyes.gif)
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='536019' date='Feb 25 2008, 06:34 PM
I believe what Vegastrashed meant to say was that his car is optimized for 93 octane because of his software remap.
From what I understand, most cars from the factory have a range of tolerance built into their operational software to account for a variety of usage conditions from the consumer. This is where tuners write software that narrows those tolerances and try to extract more power based on better fuel..etc..
But I do understand your question about how our car's performance is measured as I'm also curious. Specifications aside, I had always believed that the same car in a different state that sells 93 octane can probably slightly out perform our car here in CA.
From what I understand, most cars from the factory have a range of tolerance built into their operational software to account for a variety of usage conditions from the consumer. This is where tuners write software that narrows those tolerances and try to extract more power based on better fuel..etc..
But I do understand your question about how our car's performance is measured as I'm also curious. Specifications aside, I had always believed that the same car in a different state that sells 93 octane can probably slightly out perform our car here in CA.
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Exterior: 50% side windows / 35% rear window Formula One Pinnacle Series | Flat AMG hood emblem
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2005 545i Sport SMG | Ti Grau | Schwarzes Dakota | Anthracite Maple | Logic 7 | Nav
Engine: Custom AFE CAI, Superchips ECU remap, Sprint Booster, RDSport Dual Exhaust Conversion with Quad Pipes and X-pipe, 3 resonators deleted, 90mm tips!
Exterior: M-Tech Aero kit | M5 Mirrors | M5 Rear Bumper | Trunk Lid Finisher | Vorsteiner decklid spoiler | 50% Formula One Pinnacle Tint
Suspension and Brakes: Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, JBT BBK: 16" cross-drilled rotors, 8 piston and 15" cross-drilled rotors, 4 piston
Wheels: VIP Modular VR 02 20x9F, 20x10R | Toyo T1R 245/30/20F, 285/25/20R
Lights: PIAA 4150K Xtreme White Plus fog lights, AIB v3
MOST IMPORTANT: Hardwired V1; =)
ED Date: 4/7/05, Re-delivery date: 5/21/05
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I just realize that is RON only. RON+MON is about 4 points less. So, 93 RON = 89 RON+MO.
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Engine: Custom Remus cat-back exhaust w/chrome square tips, K&N Air Filter, Charcoal Filter Removed, Sprint Booster :-), 50/50 mix of 91+100 Octane, EuroRev ECU Remap (coming soon lol), Dinan High-Flow Throttle Body (coming soon...maybe lol)
Interior: Portable Sirius Stilletto 100 w/car kit, Garmin Nuvi 680 mounted below rear-view mirror, LCI-style I-drive knob, Dark Poplar Center Dashboard Trim.
Exterior: E60 forum clings, 5% rear tint, ACS roof spoiler (painted black for distinct look against limo tint), ACS trunk spoiler, ACS add-on front spoiler and rear apron (awaiting installation), "18 Black Staggered BeBeS Style OER (emergency replacement for cracked sport 124 rims), black kidney grill, white accessory lighting (including license and trunk lamps), Angel-eye upgrade, AIB xenon-matched fog lamps, AIB V3's on order, red rear reflectors
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='536091' date='Feb 25 2008, 09:20 PM
I just realize that is RON only. RON+MON is about 4 points less. So, 93 RON = 89 RON+MO. ![Doh](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/doh.gif)
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Don't fret too much. 98 RON is the recommended, while 93 RON is the MINIMUM you should go before your car decides to take its angst out on you for being cheap lol.
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Engine: RPi/Powerchips custom ECU tune, RPi Ram Air Kit (BMC filter, scoops), RennTech Sport exhaust, secondary cats, charcoal and resonator delete, custom AAA x-pipe
Exterior: 50% side windows / 35% rear window Formula One Pinnacle Series | Flat AMG hood emblem
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2005 545i Sport SMG | Ti Grau | Schwarzes Dakota | Anthracite Maple | Logic 7 | Nav
Engine: Custom AFE CAI, Superchips ECU remap, Sprint Booster, RDSport Dual Exhaust Conversion with Quad Pipes and X-pipe, 3 resonators deleted, 90mm tips!
Exterior: M-Tech Aero kit | M5 Mirrors | M5 Rear Bumper | Trunk Lid Finisher | Vorsteiner decklid spoiler | 50% Formula One Pinnacle Tint
Suspension and Brakes: Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, JBT BBK: 16" cross-drilled rotors, 8 piston and 15" cross-drilled rotors, 4 piston
Wheels: VIP Modular VR 02 20x9F, 20x10R | Toyo T1R 245/30/20F, 285/25/20R
Lights: PIAA 4150K Xtreme White Plus fog lights, AIB v3
MOST IMPORTANT: Hardwired V1; =)
ED Date: 4/7/05, Re-delivery date: 5/21/05
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Ok, I gotta lay off the chronic... I kid!
I took a look at the pic again and 93 RON (89 RON+MON) is the MINIMUM. 98 RON = 94 RON+MON. So, I was right. E63 engine is indeed optimized for 94/93 RON+MON.
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I took a look at the pic again and 93 RON (89 RON+MON) is the MINIMUM. 98 RON = 94 RON+MON. So, I was right. E63 engine is indeed optimized for 94/93 RON+MON.
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Exterior: 50% side windows / 35% rear window Formula One Pinnacle Series | Flat AMG hood emblem
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2005 545i Sport SMG | Ti Grau | Schwarzes Dakota | Anthracite Maple | Logic 7 | Nav
Engine: Custom AFE CAI, Superchips ECU remap, Sprint Booster, RDSport Dual Exhaust Conversion with Quad Pipes and X-pipe, 3 resonators deleted, 90mm tips!
Exterior: M-Tech Aero kit | M5 Mirrors | M5 Rear Bumper | Trunk Lid Finisher | Vorsteiner decklid spoiler | 50% Formula One Pinnacle Tint
Suspension and Brakes: Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, JBT BBK: 16" cross-drilled rotors, 8 piston and 15" cross-drilled rotors, 4 piston
Wheels: VIP Modular VR 02 20x9F, 20x10R | Toyo T1R 245/30/20F, 285/25/20R
Lights: PIAA 4150K Xtreme White Plus fog lights, AIB v3
MOST IMPORTANT: Hardwired V1; =)
ED Date: 4/7/05, Re-delivery date: 5/21/05
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Originally Posted by advancedlogic' post='536109' date='Feb 25 2008, 10:11 PM
Don't fret too much. 98 RON is the recommended, while 93 RON is the MINIMUM you should go before your car decides to take its angst out on you for being cheap lol.
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Engine: Custom Remus cat-back exhaust w/chrome square tips, K&N Air Filter, Charcoal Filter Removed, Sprint Booster :-), 50/50 mix of 91+100 Octane, EuroRev ECU Remap (coming soon lol), Dinan High-Flow Throttle Body (coming soon...maybe lol)
Interior: Portable Sirius Stilletto 100 w/car kit, Garmin Nuvi 680 mounted below rear-view mirror, LCI-style I-drive knob, Dark Poplar Center Dashboard Trim.
Exterior: E60 forum clings, 5% rear tint, ACS roof spoiler (painted black for distinct look against limo tint), ACS trunk spoiler, ACS add-on front spoiler and rear apron (awaiting installation), "18 Black Staggered BeBeS Style OER (emergency replacement for cracked sport 124 rims), black kidney grill, white accessory lighting (including license and trunk lamps), Angel-eye upgrade, AIB xenon-matched fog lamps, AIB V3's on order, red rear reflectors
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='536110' date='Feb 25 2008, 10:12 PM
Ok, I gotta lay off the chronic... I kid!
I took a look at the pic again and 93 RON (89 RON+MON) is the MINIMUM. 98 RON = 94 RON+MON. So, I was right. E63 engine is indeed optimized for 94/93 RON+MON.
![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
I took a look at the pic again and 93 RON (89 RON+MON) is the MINIMUM. 98 RON = 94 RON+MON. So, I was right. E63 engine is indeed optimized for 94/93 RON+MON.
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