???

and where are the 10.000 euro benefit what you meantioned before?
make the same comparisation with the Pheaton? HAHA

 

I didn't mention any ?10,000 "benefit"; Peter530i did. Re-read the postings.

You then pointed out that a Golf costs much less than ?10k less than an E60, so I found you a VW that cost nearly the same as an E60, and that is significantly more comparable to an E60 than a Golf (same size and carrying capacity, for instance). If I had picked a 525d for example the cost difference is almost exactly ?10,000; and we can go up.

If you insist, there are BMWs that are more expensive than a Phaeton as well - a fully-loaded E60 (any engine) is way more than a poverty-spec Phaeton.

The whole point of the comment that started this conversation was that if you are really trying to save money, rather than getting into LPG conversion you should buy a cheaper car; however I think that in making that comparison you should compare like for like as much as possible. Comparing a mid-range Golf with an E60 is not a fair comparison in that respect, and there are VW that get much closer (i.e. Passat).

 

this is your quote "I think he meant on purchase price!"
And this was a reaction on the 10.000 euro savings of a VW and a E60, I'm I right?a
Then you are going to take an comparisations between an VW and E60 where there is almost no price difference???

I think that we can conlude we are comparing apples with oranges

 

"If you insist, there are BMWs that are more expensive than a Phaeton as well - a fully-loaded E60 (any engine) is way more than a poverty-spec Phaeton."

I insist.....I challange you.

The most expensive BMW (z8)costs 174.000 euro in The Netherlands
The most expensive Pheaton costs 176.000

So what BMW are you talking about?

 

- The switching of Gasoline to LPG(after 3 minutes after the car starts) is done automaticly

That is what i wanted to know

 

OK guys, enough of this pi**ing contest.

Apples and Oranges... This thread is about LPG.

 

hehe thanks iceman

 

I ran 150,000 miles on a LPG Ford explorer not a problem except the constant filling up every 200 miles. (no one tells you how long it takes to fill up with LPG)
I then converted a 4.7 grand cherokee to LPG and 50K miles later the engine had 2 knackered heads and I could not get spares for months. Further research has found a number of engines have difficulty with running on LPG.

Ive given up on gas and now run a diesel

 

To which I said:

I say: you may be right if you think Peter was referring to a ?10k saving on running cost; my opinion - to which I am entitled until Peter says otherwise - was that he was referring to the purchase price. In this case, there are plenty of VWs that cost similar prices to BMW E60s, or ?10k less for a roughly comparable car.

You then brought the Golf into the equation - to which my comment was that a Golf is not comparable to an E60, and that if you wanted you could find a VW with a cost roughly the same as that of an E60.

Feel free to challenge

1) I said fully-loaded E60. Lowest price for a fully loaded E60 (520dSE + all options using packages where cheaper) as per BMW UK site is ?47,185
2) I said poverty-spec Phaeton. The cheapest Phaeton on the UK price list is a Phaeton 3.0 TDi V6 SWB at ?36,995

So you can still save more than ?10k by buying the VW. Admittedly, the 520d specced to the hilt is an absurd proposition, but you are the one insisting. In any case, even taking more sensible Phaetons:

Phaeton W12 LWB: ?73,330
BMW 760 from ?81,605
BMW M6 from ?81,760

In the Netherlands, as far as I can make it out, my Dutch being what it is i.e. very limited, the most expensive Phaeton is ?175,430 with all extra accessories listed on the site (wheels); BMW 760iL is ?201,225 with all accessories. Source: www.bmw.nl ; www.volkswagen.nl

I rest my case. BTW, Z8 is no longer produced/listed. Now, can we get back to the topic at hand?

 

Sorry - cross posted with my (looooooong) post. I swear it's the last one off-topic on this thread.