The Look of Spacers with 19" #166 Wheels?
08-26-2006, 01:15 PM
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I have a 530i with non-sport package. The wheel place that I went to today told me that I should get 20mm spacers ($100) on my rear 19/275/30s.
I know a few of you have spacers on your #166 wheel setups.
Is 20 mm good or too much?
My rear 19" wheels look really tiny right now. The guy put a 20 mm spacer next to my tires to show me the change in how far the tires would move, and it looked like the tires were still within the inner well (right at it). I have the smallest looking 19" wheels/tires that I have ever seen.
In addition, he wants to charge $200 for labor to put some Eibach lowering springs on. Is this a standard price for installation?
Any advice here?
I know a few of you have spacers on your #166 wheel setups.
Is 20 mm good or too much?
My rear 19" wheels look really tiny right now. The guy put a 20 mm spacer next to my tires to show me the change in how far the tires would move, and it looked like the tires were still within the inner well (right at it). I have the smallest looking 19" wheels/tires that I have ever seen.
In addition, he wants to charge $200 for labor to put some Eibach lowering springs on. Is this a standard price for installation?
Any advice here?
08-26-2006, 02:25 PM
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I have the M172 wheels which have a similar offset to the 166's (and possibly even less).
Please take a look at the link below, because I use only 10mm spacers at the rear, as I found that 15mm was too much.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=spacers
Please take a look at the link below, because I use only 10mm spacers at the rear, as I found that 15mm was too much.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=spacers
08-26-2006, 02:51 PM
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monaco, talk to jiio. he has #166s w/ H&R 10mm spacers and i believe H&R springs too. his looks just right. dunno what an extra 10mm will do but jiio might know.
08-26-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ro11dice' post='327337' date='Aug 27 2006, 12:53 AM
here's some pix of jiio's ride of what i'm talking about:
jiio is second from the back
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jiio is second from the back
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where can we see 'mo pix???
08-26-2006, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='327340' date='Aug 26 2006, 04:01 PM
Right said man, that is perfect! It should be like that from factory where can we see 'mo pix???
where can we see 'mo pix???ats77: these are from our SF Bay Area Meet & Greet a few weeks ago. You should be able to spot jiio because he was the only TiGray out there
08-26-2006, 03:24 PM
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� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
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� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
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� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
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� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by ro11dice' post='327341' date='Aug 27 2006, 01:06 AM
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=322353
ats77: these are from our SF Bay Area Meet & Greet a few weeks ago. You should be able to spot jiio because he was the only TiGray out there
ats77: these are from our SF Bay Area Meet & Greet a few weeks ago. You should be able to spot jiio because he was the only TiGray out there
these meets must be awesome in the States, gotta have a ticket once 
08-26-2006, 04:53 PM
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Thanks, I wonder if it makes a difference with Replica #166s. I seem to have the standard 19" staggerred set up, but the wheels look really small.
Is there a certain point in the well where you want the wheel to hit? For example, when we added the 20mm to the existing wheel (by placing a 20mm spacer against the wheel), it still did not rub against the outside of the well. I do not plan to lower the car anywhere close so that there could be rubbing, so that should not be a worry.
When I looked at the picture with 10mm spacers, it almost seemed that my 20mm proposed move would be about the same. I am still wondering if I have a smaller rim size...
Thanks to all. This information, and the picture is very helpful. I will show it to the wheel guy.
Is there a certain point in the well where you want the wheel to hit? For example, when we added the 20mm to the existing wheel (by placing a 20mm spacer against the wheel), it still did not rub against the outside of the well. I do not plan to lower the car anywhere close so that there could be rubbing, so that should not be a worry.
When I looked at the picture with 10mm spacers, it almost seemed that my 20mm proposed move would be about the same. I am still wondering if I have a smaller rim size...
Thanks to all. This information, and the picture is very helpful. I will show it to the wheel guy.
08-26-2006, 06:44 PM
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Adding spacers is not going to make your rims look bigger. Spacers are really to just push the wheel out a bit further to fill in the wheel well. As for the rim size, take out a tape measure and measure them. They should actually be be 20.5" in diameter.
08-26-2006, 11:33 PM
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My Ride: 535d Sport, carbon black, media pack, visibility pack, grey leather, heated seats, sun protection glass, voice control, Eibach ProKit, 19" 166 style wheels, e-maps ECU remap to 325hp and 640NM, top speed limiter removed
Monaco,
firstly $ 200,- labour to do the springs is a very decent price. It's quite some work on an E60. ( a few hours)
On the wheels it would help to know, what size the wheels are and what the offset is. Are the rears 9" or 9.5" and the offset makes a difference, too.
firstly $ 200,- labour to do the springs is a very decent price. It's quite some work on an E60. ( a few hours)
On the wheels it would help to know, what size the wheels are and what the offset is. Are the rears 9" or 9.5" and the offset makes a difference, too.