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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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I am sure you will find some.. Or I can always come to germany and we can try it live.. hehehe
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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With your car ofcourse..
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 530E60NL' date='Aug 18 2004, 10:58 PM
With your car ofcourse..
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flowerfred' date='Aug 18 2004, 01:01 PM
The are a safety feature only when used corectly (visibility <50mtrs), but as always they are misused. They cause serious distraction at night.
Which is precisely why I said "thank God" earlier. As much as I'd love to have them on my car (I would only use them in fog, just like the front fog lights), more than 50% of the Audis and probably more than 30% of the M-B's that I follow at night have them on. I wish these owners would stop just turning on every light switch they have each night -- I'd love to make them follow someone with them on...
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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I thank God that's illegal in Germany and you end up getting a ticket when doing that sh*t.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Aug 18 2004, 04:36 PM
I thank God that's illegal in Germany and you end up getting a ticket when doing that sh*t.
It is illegal to use your fogs on non foggy conditions over here too.. There was a period everybody had his front fogs on.. Nowadays I never see it anymore.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JDN' date='Aug 18 2004, 05:47 AM
The caption in the piicture says (bulbs here, not LEDs) in parenthesis. I don't believe there was a claim that the Active Brakelight system included LEDs.
you are correct that there was no claim in the caption that the Adaptive Brakelight System included LED's, but the caption in the picture right above it says that the regular (non-Adaptive) brake lights include LED's. It says "under normal braking, the large areas of LEDs shown here illuminates". So they claim that the Adaptive Brake Light use a regular bulb, but the normal brake lights use LED's. We already know that this is not true and that there are NO LEDs in the taillights period. All I am saying is that according to this official BMW brochure it seems like at one point in time (before E60 production began), they intended to use LEDs for the regular brake lights, and then for whatever reason they changed that plan.

If BMW ever does start using LEDs for the E60 I hope that it will be for both the brakelights and the taillights, like the E65 and E63. Maybe even the turn signal like the E46 coupe.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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In 1984 I imported a German model E30 323i to the US and it had rear foglights in both taillights. Since then I have owned many US model BMW's and none of them have had rear foglights (even though MB, Audi, and Volvo have them). However, the location for the foglight is usually available in the taillights with no bulb installed (and no wiring either), or one of the already installed bulbs has a brighter filament which is the Foglight in Europe and can be wired up to turn on in the US. This was the case on my E36 M3. I bought the European foglight switch which had both front and rear foglight buttons on it, so I was able to wire the rear foglights myself. I read somewhere last year (RoadFly maybe???) that BMW NA had instructed the US dealers to install rear foglights for any customer that requests it, but I have NO confirmation on this.

From the pictures that Flowerfred posted it looks like on European models there is either a dual filament bulb in the round section, or BMW uses two different voltages to light up the bulb at two different brightness levels. I don't know whether the US Adaptive Brakelight System lights up the round section at the dimmer or brighter level. So it may be possible to wire up the light bulb to be used as a foglight as well. However, it may make the ABL useless when the foglights are on. I may experiment a bit when I get my car.
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Originally Posted by rodybmw' date='Aug 19 2004, 10:59 AM
From the pictures that Flowerfred posted it looks like on European models there is either a dual filament bulb in the round section, or BMW uses two different voltages to light up the bulb at two different brightness levels. I don't know whether the US Adaptive Brakelight System lights up the round section at the dimmer or brighter level. So it may be possible to wire up the light bulb to be used as a foglight as well. However, it may make the ABL useless when the foglights are on. I may experiment a bit when I get my car.
The dual rear foglight are UK spec, in Germany it's only one.
If you want to install rear foglights I would suggest installing it the German way, so you will even have the ABL working. ABL will light up the second bulb then...
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Aug 19 2004, 03:56 PM
The dual rear foglight are UK spec, in Germany it's only one.
If you want to install rear foglights I would suggest installing it the German way, so you will even have the ABL working. ABL will light up the second bulb then...
That sounds like a good idea..........It's interesting that the German spec. E60 has only one rear foglight......my 1984 German model E30 323i had rear foglights on both sides.
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