LCI Taillights retrofit - finally managed to get this working
11-28-2007, 03:51 AM
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I'm actually not sure about the BFD on the EU LCIs anymore. The reason being in the pre-LCI cars the BFD on the EU cars used to be one of the lights in the main section and the circle light in the US.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
11-28-2007, 04:13 AM
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I am starting to think that on all EU LCIs the BFD is a standard feature. I am also confirming this now directly with Germany. It makes a big difference whether it is or not! if you have the Light Module programmed with no BFD all the cables get swapped around making the light function differently (different bulbs lighting / bulbs not lighting) - this is what I discovered on my car!
Now I am going to try the 2nd programming of the LM with the BFD settings! and if I get full functionality on my tail lights it will only mean that all Euro spec cars had BFD as a standard feature. I have re-wired my car with the new retrofit cables - this is what I am going through this heart ache again!
But I love it!
I am going to post How to upgrade ur car's bumper to the new LCI bumper / what is required along with all the parts - I just finished doing mine!
Thanks
M.
Now I am going to try the 2nd programming of the LM with the BFD settings! and if I get full functionality on my tail lights it will only mean that all Euro spec cars had BFD as a standard feature. I have re-wired my car with the new retrofit cables - this is what I am going through this heart ache again!
But I love it!I am going to post How to upgrade ur car's bumper to the new LCI bumper / what is required along with all the parts - I just finished doing mine!
Thanks
M.
Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='500000' date='Nov 28 2007, 03:51 PM
I'm actually not sure about the BFD on the EU LCIs anymore. The reason being in the pre-LCI cars the BFD on the EU cars used to be one of the lights in the main section and the circle light in the US.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
11-28-2007, 11:08 PM
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Bruce,
The following was what I recieved from Germany as a response to my question;
BMW 5 Series, X3 and 6 Series Coupe and Convertible from March 2004 production onwards are fitted with Brake Force Display technology, while the 3 Series, X5 and Z4 Roadster from April 2004 production onwards do also include this standard feature.
Brake Force Display standard safety feature introduced as standard equipment on BMW vehicles sold in Australia and other markets under its industry-leading FIRST (Fully Integrated Road Safety Technology) policy which includes anti-lock brakes, traction and stability control, dual-stage intelligent airbags and rigid body shells equipped with impact absorbing crumple zones.
So this means that all cars including US & Euro should have BFD as a standard. This is why my tail lights are not functioning properly - because they recoded the Light Module with the wrong software with no BFD feature.
Take care
M.
The following was what I recieved from Germany as a response to my question;
BMW 5 Series, X3 and 6 Series Coupe and Convertible from March 2004 production onwards are fitted with Brake Force Display technology, while the 3 Series, X5 and Z4 Roadster from April 2004 production onwards do also include this standard feature.
Brake Force Display standard safety feature introduced as standard equipment on BMW vehicles sold in Australia and other markets under its industry-leading FIRST (Fully Integrated Road Safety Technology) policy which includes anti-lock brakes, traction and stability control, dual-stage intelligent airbags and rigid body shells equipped with impact absorbing crumple zones.
So this means that all cars including US & Euro should have BFD as a standard. This is why my tail lights are not functioning properly - because they recoded the Light Module with the wrong software with no BFD feature.
Take care
M.
Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='500000' date='Nov 28 2007, 03:51 PM
I'm actually not sure about the BFD on the EU LCIs anymore. The reason being in the pre-LCI cars the BFD on the EU cars used to be one of the lights in the main section and the circle light in the US.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
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Bruce,
The following was what I recieved from Germany as a response to my question;
BMW 5 Series, X3 and 6 Series Coupe and Convertible from March 2004 production onwards are fitted with Brake Force Display technology, while the 3 Series, X5 and Z4 Roadster from April 2004 production onwards do also include this standard feature.
Brake Force Display standard safety feature introduced as standard equipment on BMW vehicles sold in Australia and other markets under its industry-leading FIRST (Fully Integrated Road Safety Technology) policy which includes anti-lock brakes, traction and stability control, dual-stage intelligent airbags and rigid body shells equipped with impact absorbing crumple zones.
So this means that all cars including US & Euro should have BFD as a standard. This is why my tail lights are not functioning properly - because they recoded the Light Module with the wrong software with no BFD feature.
Take care
M.
The following was what I recieved from Germany as a response to my question;
BMW 5 Series, X3 and 6 Series Coupe and Convertible from March 2004 production onwards are fitted with Brake Force Display technology, while the 3 Series, X5 and Z4 Roadster from April 2004 production onwards do also include this standard feature.
Brake Force Display standard safety feature introduced as standard equipment on BMW vehicles sold in Australia and other markets under its industry-leading FIRST (Fully Integrated Road Safety Technology) policy which includes anti-lock brakes, traction and stability control, dual-stage intelligent airbags and rigid body shells equipped with impact absorbing crumple zones.
So this means that all cars including US & Euro should have BFD as a standard. This is why my tail lights are not functioning properly - because they recoded the Light Module with the wrong software with no BFD feature.
Take care
M.
Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='500000' date='Nov 28 2007, 03:51 PM
I'm actually not sure about the BFD on the EU LCIs anymore. The reason being in the pre-LCI cars the BFD on the EU cars used to be one of the lights in the main section and the circle light in the US.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
However in the LCI lights both lights in the main section come up during normal Braking (like they've always done in the US). So I don't know where the BFD bulb in the EU is because the circle is for the Fog light. In the US it could still be the circle bulb because they don't have the rear fog.
11-29-2007, 12:12 AM
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I could have told you that. BFD has been standard for a while now but my point is which bulb in the LCI cars is the BFD. In the pre-lci EU cars it was the middle light and the in the US it was the circle. But so far I have no idea where the LCI BFD is, both for the US or EU -although for the US cars it may still be in the circle itself.
11-29-2007, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='500491' date='Nov 29 2007, 10:12 AM
I could have told you that. BFD has been standard for a while now but my point is which bulb in the LCI cars is the BFD. In the pre-lci EU cars it was the middle light and the in the US it was the circle. But so far I have no idea where the LCI BFD is, both for the US or EU -although for the US cars it may still be in the circle itself.
The only point to note is that in the EU manual there is an asterisk indicating that at time of printing, the function was not yet available...
Also in the EU version BFD will only function if the fog lights are not operating at the time.
11-29-2007, 01:18 AM
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Andy, As usual you've chimed in with excellent information. That makes a lot of sense. So in the fog no one will know I am Heavy Braking in Europe anymore :-)
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Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='500504' date='Nov 29 2007, 11:18 AM
So in the fog no one will know I am Heavy Braking in Europe anymore :-)
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Ok. I bought the LCI rear taillights in "Germany". I do not want the LCI front headlights.
1) But what is the difference between bruce's cable and the new kit made by bmw ?
2) Is it possible to install the new kit made by bmw only for the rear ?
3) Which am the best of two ?
tHANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.
1) But what is the difference between bruce's cable and the new kit made by bmw ?
2) Is it possible to install the new kit made by bmw only for the rear ?
3) Which am the best of two ?
tHANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.
