The LCI retrofit is a retrofit cable set for the facelift lights. This is the BMW OEM solution to get the facelift headlights and taillights working on pre-LCI cars. A new light module (LM) needs to be installed on cars before 09/06.

Part numbers:
E60: 61 12 0 432 110
E61: 61 12 0 432 397

The cable kit consists of many parts (adapters, sockets, etc.). A person would have to buy the facelift headlights, taillights and light module separately.

The TIS document states an approximately 5.5 hours. But I would think it is much longer for older cars or when troubleshooting arise. It sounds like a 2 days labor extensive dealer job! For the taillights, couple of the wires from the cables need to be routed all the way to the front of the car--connecting the pins directly to the dismantled plug on the LM. The headlights require bumper removal. The pre-LCI existing plugs (the 8-pin plug and 4-pin plug) have to be completely disassembled. A provided 12-pin socket will then be individually wired and this plugs into the facelift headlight. And finally the car is program/encoded.

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Do you know how much for all the hardware and estimated labor costs for the install?

Rootkit, how much does it cost for the whole retrofit kit cables & LM? (excluding headlights & tail lights)...

The approx. price breakdown...

a. AHL-xenon headlights: 1,850
b. Taillights: 430
c. Light module: 350
d. Retrofit cable set: 50
e. "Labor": 1,000

Give or take, somewhere between $3.5k to $4k out the door. :o

So Rear Tailight = $430 + $50 cable?

I think you will also need the light module :think: but I'm not sure.

Yes, new light module if your car is older than 09/06. In addition to that, programming.

I thought the light module is only for LCI front headlights right? LCI Rear only needs a retrofit cable isnt it.

The light module controls both front headlights and the rear taillights. the rear needs a retrofit cable adapter and then there is some long wires that hooks to LM to the front. Programming is necessary to get correct function or fix errors.

4-5k for lights... I think we all would agree that you can do a lot more with 4-5k, than just lights. =)


Get some 20 inch rims! or.. bodykit, and rims and springs. heh.


So much. or just keep the car the same and get a motorcycle, Used of course. If you want speed that is.


If is cool that BMW offer's the retrofit cables and such, but its just so expensive.


MK

yah $4k is not worth it.. lol!

The bigger question is, when you retrofit these things, does BMW provide full warranty on them too?

On warranty I'm not sure. I would think so since it is a dealer option.
Yes, it cost an arm and a leg! If you guys shop around and know a good dealer that can do for less or have a newer car. the price can probably be less than ~3k.

The route for me:

- LCI LED taillights
- Bruce's retrofit cable
- Slightly used eurospec pre-LCI headlights from Europe

~$1,600 :thumbsup:

RootKit,
What is part number for those cables?

Thanks

I agree..4k is too much. I have an 06 and now waiting for my 08 and to be honest, i did not see much difference. There are some but not something like night and day...

WOW,..Do the new headlights come only in AHL?

What if we want to convert from halogens to the LCI's headlights?

Do we have to buy the AHL module also?

Thanks

Fred, it's written on the plastic bag in the first pic.

Thank you, Andy.

For now, I advise everyone NOT to buy or do the retrofit yet! I took the car to dealer, they encountered problems with the kit. The retrofit cable set for headlight does not match up with the pre-lci wiring. The colors of the wiring according to the TIS .pdf instruction is different than the wires. not so sure why...the lci retrofit is just for europe only? I'll keep everyone updated.

Thanks for the heads up RootKit :thumbsup:

1. so no problem going ahead with the rear tailights retrofit only then ?

2. You wouldn't have a copy of that pdf would you ?

do anyone know if the controllers, ballast, ignitors are different from pre-LCI versions? will the pre-LCI controllers, ballast, ignitors work with LCI versions?

They are the same if you have D1S bulbs.

When i get some time i'm going to uninstall one of my headlight and verify the colors/wiring to the diagram in the "LCI Retrofit" coloring diagram. To make sure my BMW mechanic didn't overlook something or simply color blinded. :whistle:

Just in case someone might know--is the wiring loom wire/colors that plug into headlight between US and Euro specs car different? i know that the plug is the same, but what about the wires color?

Here is the "LCI Retrofit" .pdf file if anybody is interested:

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The part on the plastic bag is for the cables and ALL the other bits and pieces in the bag. What about the cables themselves, do they have a separate part numbers for them or does someone know how to find out the parts numbers for all the parts in the Retro fit bag 61 12 0 432 110.

The way I see this is if we can find the part number of those cables only then there are bound to be cheaper than the Retrofit kit bag. That way all you need is those cables, a pair of tail lights and the LCM. Of course you will still need to code the LCM so I cannot see how you can DIY this. You can always install this yourself and then get the dealer to simply recode (similar to what a lot of people did for the Aux retrofit).

Correct Bruce, and there is still the issue of losing some functionality from the headlights, namely the angel eyes (confirmed by some members here) - I have the impression the retrofit was made with both the rear and front in mind.

Is someone can tell me, if i would like to change only the rear light by LCI taillight, what parts i need, to fit correctly and work without problem.

Probably explains why BMW GB say this part has now gone On Hold and cannot be ordered.

The LCI retrofit install guide apply to only BiXenon and AHL. The halogen to xenon conversion requires a different retrofit first.

The LCI retrofit applys to European cars. My dealer bmw mechanic says the wire colors/gauge size don't match. earlier today, got a chance to take out my headlights and can confirm that the colors of the wires (8 pins & 4 pins) are totally different. I don't understand, the taillights for US and Euro cars use matching colors. however, for the headlights, the wiring colors are totally different! i thought it would be universal and that any changes between US and Euro cars can be programmed to give different functions--like similar to our taillights.

So what is the difference between Euro and US specs headlight?...the plugs are the same but the wiring colors are different. Do euro headlights have other functions? why would BMW go through the trouble of distinguishing the wires color? :think:

Root, I bet you have the latest WDS 11.0. Why dont you simply find out the equivalents between the two and proceed.

Rootkey, I looked on the WDS for you and there does not seem to be any difference between the US and EU cars. However there are 4 different schemes depending on when your car was made.

1st - Upto 2005-03,
2nd from 2005-03 to 2005-09
3rd from 2005-09 to 2007-03
4th 2007-03 onwards.

What car is yours

thanks bruce for the checkup. my production date is 12/2003. no differences? like as in same functions or same wiring/colors etc?

There is just no difference at all. Normally if there are differences in the WDS they show up as US, JAPAN specifically. But for the headlights, nothing.

I suspect the Retrofit kit is refering to a wiring scheme that is a different age than your car, may 2nd or 3rd from my list above.

that's strange, can you please compare my car to an '07 LCI wiring schematic?
I checked the wires to the LCI Retrofit manual. some wire colors are the same and the ones that are different is half off. The gauge size thickness all are very similar. for example: "red/blue" would be "brown/blue" for one pin of the X13421 8 pins plug. however for the 4 pins x10609, most of the coloring don't even match at all.

Pictures of my right and left AHL headlights(8 & 4 pins)

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Rootkey, I think you've fallen foul to the BMW age issue. I've checked the WDS and compared it with the LCI Retrofit kit. The Kit seems to be for cars from 2005-03 onwards and not for your car.
I'm sure I will be able to work out some equivalent connections if you are willing to experiment.

Crazy, in the LCI retrofit manual--made no mention to what year of the car. it says "valid for cars with SA 522 (BiXenon) or SA 525 (AHL)." Yes, i'll have to definitely experiment with the equivalent connection.

Another few important things, it applys to car before 2005. The "actuator" can be reuse for the new LCI headlight. However the "bulb and unit" & "ignitor" need to be replaced!! also, need to buy the clips that hold the xenon in place.

Can you please guide me, what are the items that I need to retrofit from halogen to xenon, Is it simply plug and play?

Ballast, Ignitors, Bulbs, Headlights assy? Anything else? I think I need another adapter, but not sure

Please help


Thanks