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Originally Posted by RPIpower' post='822795' date='Mar 21 2009, 12:05 AM
Although things do need to be calm here, I highly doubt the home made ones will do anything. It took SEVERAL prototypes and hours of dyno testing to get the scoops designed correctly. I know what you mean though.
No he doesnt. I really dont need anyone to post on our behalf on the forums. Our products speak for itself. Those who dont believe in something we make? Well thats their decision. We always welcome people to come, dyno and race our customers.
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Being an enthusiast myself, its hard to believe that $99 for 7whp is even a question. When RPi was started, I was in college and worked at Walmart for cents over minimum wage. I saved up for months and bought parts for my car only to realize later on that the parts did nothing to give me more hp and in some cases, I lost power. RPi was started as a consumer reports type of business. We wanted to make REAL products with REAL results. When we price items out, we have to factor in the amount of R&D that goes into the product as well as material and labor costs. Our scoops are made of aluminum, not tin, and inspected by ME personally (YES, I CHECK EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE PERSONALLY), tig welded and powdercoated. Those who are familiar with welding will know how hard it is to tig weld aluminum, especially when its thin aluminum like our scoops are. That coupled with dyno proven results, we did not think $99 was a bad price. I thought to myself, if I was working for minimum wage, would I pay $99 for 7whp? Yes, I would. NO one gets ripped off by RPi and no one will ever get ripped off.
We dont have a patent number yet but we do have the filing number that was given to us in 2006. These things take time. The truth of the matter is, no one would be making anything like this if we didnt come up with it and prove it on the dyno. I dont mind someone trying to make their own scoop. Its just unfair to compare the home made scoops to what is made here on a car on the dyno with 40+ miles of dyno time.
With that, can we get some love on the forums? Why all the drama? If someone doesnt like the scoop, thats fine. If someone thinks one way is better or the other, bring it on. There is nothing wrong with a few runs done in fun. Just dont dissappear or not show up to your own challenge.
No he doesnt. I really dont need anyone to post on our behalf on the forums. Our products speak for itself. Those who dont believe in something we make? Well thats their decision. We always welcome people to come, dyno and race our customers.
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Being an enthusiast myself, its hard to believe that $99 for 7whp is even a question. When RPi was started, I was in college and worked at Walmart for cents over minimum wage. I saved up for months and bought parts for my car only to realize later on that the parts did nothing to give me more hp and in some cases, I lost power. RPi was started as a consumer reports type of business. We wanted to make REAL products with REAL results. When we price items out, we have to factor in the amount of R&D that goes into the product as well as material and labor costs. Our scoops are made of aluminum, not tin, and inspected by ME personally (YES, I CHECK EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE PERSONALLY), tig welded and powdercoated. Those who are familiar with welding will know how hard it is to tig weld aluminum, especially when its thin aluminum like our scoops are. That coupled with dyno proven results, we did not think $99 was a bad price. I thought to myself, if I was working for minimum wage, would I pay $99 for 7whp? Yes, I would. NO one gets ripped off by RPi and no one will ever get ripped off.
We dont have a patent number yet but we do have the filing number that was given to us in 2006. These things take time. The truth of the matter is, no one would be making anything like this if we didnt come up with it and prove it on the dyno. I dont mind someone trying to make their own scoop. Its just unfair to compare the home made scoops to what is made here on a car on the dyno with 40+ miles of dyno time.
With that, can we get some love on the forums? Why all the drama? If someone doesnt like the scoop, thats fine. If someone thinks one way is better or the other, bring it on. There is nothing wrong with a few runs done in fun. Just dont dissappear or not show up to your own challenge.
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Originally Posted by radzM550i' post='822438' date='Mar 20 2009, 04:02 PM
Why don't we just THANK RPI for inventing and giving us the idea of the scoops for our cars!!!!!!!
Why don't we just THANK RPI for designing and giving us the idea of the scoops for our cars!!!!!
How does that sound!!!
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im wondering if I installed my RPI correctly?!?!, just by reading the post, if its off that can make a big difference!
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Originally Posted by will2k' post='823174' date='Mar 21 2009, 05:34 PM
im wondering if I installed my RPI correctly?!?!, just by reading the post, if its off that can make a big difference!
better check, its rocket science according to RPi
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Originally Posted by Ellicit' post='823215' date='Mar 21 2009, 05:34 PM
better check, its rocket science according to RPi
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Originally Posted by mchamner' post='823499' date='Mar 21 2009, 10:59 PM
Its definitely not botany (the study of plants)...LOL Im messin with ya now ![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by dbpack' post='823513' date='Mar 21 2009, 10:39 PM
Sounds like it was more trial and error than anything else. No hit against RPi (I have an RPi scoop installed myself, and will probably get their exhaust in the near future), but until I see some fluid dynamics calculations showing that the air flow through their scoop is truly optimized, I'm considering it trial and error, not engineering. But in the end, it still works and is a great product!
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='823517' date='Mar 21 2009, 11:54 PM
but that's what science is, trial and error...form a conclusion, develop the tool, then measure it's results to see if your conclusion holds tru...in this case...dyno/hp gains...![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
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But like I said, the RPi scoop is a great product, and RPi is a great company dedicated to selling ONLY products that work!
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Originally Posted by dbpack' post='823521' date='Mar 21 2009, 11:14 PM
But like I said, the RPi scoop is a great product, and RPi is a great company dedicated to selling ONLY products that work!
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