Hamann | Increased-displacement engine HM 5.2 (BMW 545i)
12-30-2006, 09:07 PM
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Info. from Hamann site:
Displacement increase to 5156 ccm.
Power increase to 412 hp/303 kW at 6,100 rpm
Max. torque 550 Nm at 3,900 rpm
http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/pdf/en/bmw_5er.pdf
Displacement increase to 5156 ccm.
Power increase to 412 hp/303 kW at 6,100 rpm
Max. torque 550 Nm at 3,900 rpm
http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/pdf/en/bmw_5er.pdf
12-30-2006, 11:15 PM
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Wow! That's so cool. It increases displacement by 17% and 27% of hp. Almost 100hp increased. For 550, it might increase to 450hp. Still cannot declare war with M5 yet, unless it go up to 490hp or so.
Wait for supercharge from VF
Wait for supercharge from VF
01-01-2007, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='372527' date='Dec 31 2006, 09:15 AM
Wow! That's so cool. It increases displacement by 17% and 27% of hp. Almost 100hp increased. For 550, it might increase to 450hp. Still cannot declare war with M5 yet, unless it go up to 490hp or so.
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Wait for supercharge from VF
01-01-2007, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='372720' date='Jan 1 2007, 01:24 PM
WONDERFUL mod!
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
We need a group buy, LOL!
01-01-2007, 08:55 AM
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OMFG! Price is ?25.000 !!!??? :thumbsdown:
Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='372720' date='Jan 1 2007, 04:24 AM
WONDERFUL mod!
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Right
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Right
01-01-2007, 08:56 AM
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?25.000? Upgrade to Hamann or buy a used M5 for that money? Most of people will go width used M5 since warranty still be granted.
If that's the case, I'd wait for VF for sure or twin-turbo V10, maybe 600hp, (?) 
If that's the case, I'd wait for VF for sure
or twin-turbo V10, maybe 600hp, (?)
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Ok if that's the price then i think it's way out of line, but in a way there will always be those people that like exclusivity, keep the engine still NA which is quite important to some. BUT an extra 79bhp for 25000 euros means 316 euros/bhp which when i think of the 535d remap that translets to extra 78bhp for 1600 euros which equals aprox 20euros/bhp
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='372527' date='Dec 31 2006, 12:15 AM
Wow! That's so cool. It increases displacement by 17% and 27% of hp. Almost 100hp increased. For 550, it might increase to 450hp. Still cannot declare war with M5 yet, unless it go up to 490hp or so.
Wait for supercharge from VF
Wait for supercharge from VF
R54 Motor
142 62 54 601 R54 Motor (Step 1A) 496HP for 545Ci [N62 B44]
142 62 54 602 R54 Motor (Step 1
496HP for 545CiA [N62 B44] 142 62 54 603 R54 Motor (Step 2A) 496HP for 550Ci [N62 B48]
142 62 54 604 R54 Motor (Step 2
496HP for 550CiA [N62 B48] True to its tradition, once again RDSport discounts the easier forced-induction route and pushes the envelope of its normally aspirated V8 motors to a new level.
The R54 uses much of the same technology found in the latest F1 motors: billet crankshaft, billet rods, and a set of forget pistons that are amongst the lightest to ever find their way into a production-based motor.
The ported cylinder heads boast 22% more efficiency than the stock ones, and this is mainly obtained through the use of larger valves and modified cam profiles.
The motor internals are complemented by a full race-bred exhaust, entirely hand-made out of 304 stainless steel. It features equal length primaries, metal matrix catalytic converters, an X-Flow downpipe, and 2 hyper-efficient rear silencers with quad pipes.
The results are impressive: 489 HP SAE @ 6500 RPM, but more important, an astounding 408 lbs-ft of torque at only 3800 RPM. The performance of the R54 Sedan is exhilarating: 0-62 mph in a mere 4.5 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph.
01-01-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='372720' date='Jan 1 2007, 07:24 AM
WONDERFUL mod!
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Right
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Right
01-01-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='372863' date='Jan 1 2007, 09:25 PM
Here's an alternative, normally aspirated but might also be an extremely expensive upgrade:
R54 Motor
142 62 54 601 R54 Motor (Step 1A) 496HP for 545Ci [N62 B44]
142 62 54 602 R54 Motor (Step 1 496HP for 545CiA [N62 B44]
142 62 54 603 R54 Motor (Step 2A) 496HP for 550Ci [N62 B48]
142 62 54 604 R54 Motor (Step 2 496HP for 550CiA [N62 B48]
True to its tradition, once again RDSport discounts the easier forced-induction route and pushes the envelope of its normally aspirated V8 motors to a new level.
The R54 uses much of the same technology found in the latest F1 motors: billet crankshaft, billet rods, and a set of forget pistons that are amongst the lightest to ever find their way into a production-based motor.
The ported cylinder heads boast 22% more efficiency than the stock ones, and this is mainly obtained through the use of larger valves and modified cam profiles.
The motor internals are complemented by a full race-bred exhaust, entirely hand-made out of 304 stainless steel. It features equal length primaries, metal matrix catalytic converters, an X-Flow downpipe, and 2 hyper-efficient rear silencers with quad pipes.
The results are impressive: 489 HP SAE @ 6500 RPM, but more important, an astounding 408 lbs-ft of torque at only 3800 RPM. The performance of the R54 Sedan is exhilarating: 0-62 mph in a mere 4.5 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph.
R54 Motor
142 62 54 601 R54 Motor (Step 1A) 496HP for 545Ci [N62 B44]
142 62 54 602 R54 Motor (Step 1
496HP for 545CiA [N62 B44] 142 62 54 603 R54 Motor (Step 2A) 496HP for 550Ci [N62 B48]
142 62 54 604 R54 Motor (Step 2
496HP for 550CiA [N62 B48] True to its tradition, once again RDSport discounts the easier forced-induction route and pushes the envelope of its normally aspirated V8 motors to a new level.
The R54 uses much of the same technology found in the latest F1 motors: billet crankshaft, billet rods, and a set of forget pistons that are amongst the lightest to ever find their way into a production-based motor.
The ported cylinder heads boast 22% more efficiency than the stock ones, and this is mainly obtained through the use of larger valves and modified cam profiles.
The motor internals are complemented by a full race-bred exhaust, entirely hand-made out of 304 stainless steel. It features equal length primaries, metal matrix catalytic converters, an X-Flow downpipe, and 2 hyper-efficient rear silencers with quad pipes.
The results are impressive: 489 HP SAE @ 6500 RPM, but more important, an astounding 408 lbs-ft of torque at only 3800 RPM. The performance of the R54 Sedan is exhilarating: 0-62 mph in a mere 4.5 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph.
It is about 25,000 euros for the Hamann, I suspecting this could cost +30K euros!