Does anyone have this exact intake setup?
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Originally Posted by bavarianx' post='850434' date='Apr 17 2009, 11:04 AM
I dont see how there is so much interest made about the intake temp on the 535, you all realize that the intake flow is pushed thru a 200+degree turbo where its instantly heated, the only way to change the charged air temp is through use of an FMIC to cool it. Air temp before the turbo is irrelevant.
can we get your toughts regarding the injen intake that you sell please
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=73817&hl=
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http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...&pid=829992
and +1 for the rpi scoop + filter (I am using a helene filter)
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='850446' date='Apr 17 2009, 02:23 PM
can we get your toughts regarding the injen intake that you sell please
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=73817&hl=
and/or
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...&pid=829992
and +1 for the rpi scoop + filter (I am using a helene filter)
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=73817&hl=
and/or
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=...&pid=829992
and +1 for the rpi scoop + filter (I am using a helene filter)
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I dont see how there is so much interest made about the intake temp on the 535, you all realize that the intake flow is pushed thru a 200+degree turbo where its instantly heated, the only way to change the charged air temp is through use of an FMIC to cool it. Air temp before the turbo is irrelevant.
according to this statement, why even bother purchasing any intake set-up?
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='850636' date='Apr 17 2009, 03:57 PM
right, and the dyno used to promote the hp gains with the injen intake is on a stock 135i correct?
but there were still baseline dynos done with race gas, exhaust, and flash...followed by + injen intake...
so the mods with the 535i dyno + injen intake, that is what is causing the hp loss, not the injen intake alone?
according to this statement, why even bother purchasing any intake set-up?
but there were still baseline dynos done with race gas, exhaust, and flash...followed by + injen intake...
so the mods with the 535i dyno + injen intake, that is what is causing the hp loss, not the injen intake alone?
according to this statement, why even bother purchasing any intake set-up?
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Race fuel gives a vehicle increased resistance to detonation. That tends to show a bigger benefits to hot air intakes, so with normal gas, the deficit would be even greater.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
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Originally Posted by NobleForums' post='850688' date='Apr 17 2009, 05:16 PM
Race fuel gives a vehicle increased resistance to detonation. That tends to show a bigger benefits to hot air intakes, so with normal gas, the deficit would be even greater.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
well stated
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Originally Posted by NobleForums' post='850688' date='Apr 17 2009, 05:16 PM
Race fuel gives a vehicle increased resistance to detonation. That tends to show a bigger benefits to hot air intakes, so with normal gas, the deficit would be even greater.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
bavarianx makes an important point though: mods are usually situation specific.
Every piece of the car is a study in compromise. Sometimes the compromise is low end power (ie. some long tube headers), sometimes it's sound (open exhausts), sometimes it's cost (inconel headers). Sometimes, like with hot air intakes, it's depends on the environment it's used in. I'm sure if you lived in an area with very cold weather and do not drive around with a hood attached, it would show power. As bavarianx stated, this intake was designed for an otherwise stock vehicle. RPi has tested the scoops and have shown gains with stock vehicles, lightly modified vehicles, heavily modified vehicles, in the cold, in hot weather, in the rain, in confined high-particulate spaces, hood up, hood down, with stock software, with their software, with Dinan software, with AA software, with cold start, with a heatsoaked engine, with 91 octane, with race gas, etc.
The better each owner understands their own preferences, current mods, planned mods, as well as the costs/benefits/weaknesses of each mod they're looking at purchasing, the happier they'll be with their purchases.
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Originally Posted by bavarianx' post='850434' date='Apr 17 2009, 11:04 AM
I dont see how there is so much interest made about the intake temp on the 535, you all realize that the intake flow is pushed thru a 200+degree turbo where its instantly heated, the only way to change the charged air temp is through use of an FMIC to cool it. Air temp before the turbo is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by bavarianx' post='850647' date='Apr 17 2009, 04:13 PM
InJen did separate dyno testing for each model developed 135, 335, 535, on 100% stock vehicles using standard fuel(no race gas) so the broad statement of the Injen Intake loses power on the 535 is not correct. Im not picking a fight with anyone but, the dyno test shown on the other thread was on a very not stock vehicle so the results will not be typical. Any car with custom software needs to be tuned to each individual mod i.e. Dinan stage 1,2,3. If the software was re-tuned for a change such as a different intake the results would differ as well. Again the intake was designed to be added to a stock vehicle.
