rjcastr

Great idea Eurocarfan, anyone that is willing im so game !

coolguy

Ya exactly, till date theres has been any v1 vs V2 pics either, so doubt any will show up for V2 vs V3 lol.. But it is bright enough no matter what brand or version you buy anyways. At this point Angelibright / Uminitza has to figure out features (DRL, ON angel rights w/ unlock remote, live chaging color etc etc..) not who got brightest, that would encourage ppl to buy/upgrade them.

As far as Features and price is concerned Uminitza is a step ahead of Angelibright.

trboda6

my point exactly.. so any 1 reding this and wants v2 should consider my v1 up sor sale and keep the extra bucks in your pokets

rjcastr

i have heard that a lot as well that the human eye can't tell the difference but according to dave these AIB V3 will blow everything out of the water.

lets see if thats the case

rj

KnIgHtCoM

Too much hype... let's see some pictures already to qualify these claims!

coolguy

Haha

I think too much white will look odd. It will be like flash lights lol..

C's Bimmer

Not true at all. I get tons of compliments on my lights when I just have the AIB's going and my fogs. Go white!

umnitza

and we've not even begun to roll the real big feature into the product yet.

I mean, this one will be a little closer in price to $249 or maybe a little more, but we still have to solve some technical issues with the design first.

trboda6

+1 if we still dont have side by sides of v1 and v2 provided by the maker even when all this talk and debate was going around when v2 was being talked about i dont expect anything different from his strategy in marketing the v3.. it will probably be ohh hey guys v3 is out every 1 run to pay pal and push that button chi-chin$$ untill that happens im not buying the story of v3 being all that better because v2 has not clearly been proven to be visibly better than v1 till this day.

umnitza

Then you have a competitor that originally claims V2 is 2X brighter than V1, it's 5000000% brighter. All of a sudden, at $300 a pop with shipping, you are expected to suddenly buy the fact that in reality, there isn't a difference in output between V1 and V2. WHAT?!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

HELLO? BUELLER?!?!?!? So which is it? It's the same but prettier packaging? ok, I'll buy that. It's the same but better engineering? I'll buy that. But it's not brighter now folks is it? So why isn't there any outrage about this? Where is the public lynching that would have happened if Umnitza had ever dared or even considered making this kind of claim? There isn't any outrage that all of you getting to the V2 had to pony up money for something that was no different than V1 by the vendor's own admission??? To be perfectly forthright, we've missed DATES of shipment, and I know you guys hold us to a MUCH higher standard to do the right thing and the best thing each and every time <-- so this is quite flattering, but COME ON. Where's the outrage? :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Dave and I have no happiness together, Dave used to be a vendor for my products, he used to sell my stuff for his one-off experimental headlights, before which, he did it with LED. I frankly have no clue why he cared to go strike out on his own when this isn't what he was good at doing, but more power to him. I hold no ill will towards him, I just think it's an abomination to claim one thing and do another, but I also think it's misleading to suddenly come out with a "V3 that will blow the doors off of anything out there" when it's historically an inaccurate statement for other products. BTW - good copy of our proprietary projector lens that was first introduced in V1. Only took a year to copy it, and then it wasn't a good one at that.

FWIW, TRBODA6 hit it on the head (why I quoted him), what's with the coincidental announcement of V3 24 hours after we announced V2 would begin shipping? Coincidence? no way.
TRBODA6 Couldn't possibly be more RIGHT on his comments.

For the record, from an engineering perspective (and we worked with one of the biggest LED suppliers in the world for this) it's nearly impossible for the current LED, given cost to make a product that much brighter without using an external heatsink to dissipate the heat. Not saying it's never going to be done, but the price is too high. I know, I've already experimented with 10+W LEDs, at $240 a pop, it's not cheap and the heat sink is the size of a car (exaggeration). Good luck getting more output (strictly engineering speaking) from a light source without an external heat sink.

I've already got V2.5 in the works, as mentioned above, so I'm not terribly worried, more like amused.

So, I had to vent. We now return you to regularly scheduled cooler heads prevailing.