Winter Tyre Speed ratings
11-18-2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='357760' date='Nov 18 2006, 11:17 PM
the label clearly shows H rated M+S tyres are meant for this car, KAF]
I think you will find that M + S Tyres are not the same as winter tyres.
M+S must be so marked on the sidewall, cold weather tyres are not.
11-18-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='357864' date='Nov 19 2006, 08:06 AM
I think you will find that M + S Tyres are not the same as winter tyres.
M+S must be so marked on the sidewall, cold weather tyres are not.
M+S must be so marked on the sidewall, cold weather tyres are not.
"M+S
M+S (Mud and Snow) tyres are those with a tread pattern and sometimes compound specifically designed to perform well in poor road conditions. An M&S tyre will usually have a high negative void ratio in order to achieve this.
Some M+S tyres rely solely on the aggressive tread pattern to achieve this extra performance whilst others will have the addition of a specially designed rubber compound. In general terms this different compound is usually reserved for out and out winter tyres."
M+S (Mud and Snow) tyres are those with a tread pattern and sometimes compound specifically designed to perform well in poor road conditions. An M&S tyre will usually have a high negative void ratio in order to achieve this.
Some M+S tyres rely solely on the aggressive tread pattern to achieve this extra performance whilst others will have the addition of a specially designed rubber compound. In general terms this different compound is usually reserved for out and out winter tyres."
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11-19-2006, 01:03 AM
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I have managed already 2 winters in Finland with my H -speed class Contis (with which I was driving in Germany). They seem to work unexpectedly well, and the only moment when I have to be extra careful is of course cristal clear ice, when this a little bit too hard tire compound comes to its limit of traction. But normal winter roads; no problems !
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Erm as this is a guy from the UK I think Id better point this out :
You do not need winter tyres for the UK. I just had my PS2s replaced with another set of PS2's. It rarely snows here and if it does the roads are cleared relatively quickly. All season tyres are absolutely fine. Just get some ps2's or whatnot and you will be fine.
They are also rated at Y (180mph)
You do not need winter tyres for the UK. I just had my PS2s replaced with another set of PS2's. It rarely snows here and if it does the roads are cleared relatively quickly. All season tyres are absolutely fine. Just get some ps2's or whatnot and you will be fine.
They are also rated at Y (180mph)
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='357864' date='Nov 19 2006, 08:06 AM
I think you will find that M + S Tyres are not the same as winter tyres.
M+S must be so marked on the sidewall, cold weather tyres are not.
M+S must be so marked on the sidewall, cold weather tyres are not.
So, if your insurance company wanted to cause trouble, you'd be in exactly the same spot with V as with H rated winters.
I personally doubt a) the insurance would and b) it could anyway refuse a payment, particularly if you told them you were going to fit winter tyres.
11-19-2006, 09:13 AM
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Standard tyres "must" be Y rated; M+S can be H or V rated. No mention of "winter" as such.
Standard tyres "must" be Y rated; M+S can be H or V rated. No mention of "winter" as such.
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='357801' date='Nov 19 2006, 04:06 AM
There used to be a regulation or habit in Germany that if the tyres are speed rated below the maximum speed of the vehicle there should be a sticker on the dashboard with a reminder of what the safe speed is for the tyre
Luckily not here.
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Strange that there's no M+S option on 16 inch wheels specified on the label in your photo. I would have thought that would have been the most popular winter tyre size.
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='358504' date='Nov 20 2006, 09:17 PM
Strange that there's no M+S option on 16 inch wheels specified on the label in your photo. I would have thought that would have been the most popular winter tyre size.
