Whats happening to my Dream Car?
08-30-2006, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by monacobmw' post='328917' date='Aug 30 2006, 06:45 PM
Agreed with the original poster.
When you pay a lot for a car (i.e., you did not buy a Toyota or a Honda), you expect a little more. Yes, no car is perfect, but you expect that the more expensive cars will be more perfect than the less expensive ones.
With better manufacturing techniques today, some Toyotas are turning to have better quality results than some BMWs.
On the other hand, some more complicated vehicles like the BMW are going to have more problems because they are not run of the mill cars.
I think that the real key is how BMW reacts to fix the problem. I hope it is agreed that no sunroof should be making unexpected noises. To "whine" that an expensive car is producing an unexplained noise is not really whining. I do believe that we should expect easy problems to be solved easily.
I love this site because everyone is helpful and the code of conduct is to support, not attack one another. We all have really nice 5 series cars. I welcome the "newbie" to the board (I was there just a few months ago myself), and I look forward to his future reports on his new vehicle.
Best,
When you pay a lot for a car (i.e., you did not buy a Toyota or a Honda), you expect a little more. Yes, no car is perfect, but you expect that the more expensive cars will be more perfect than the less expensive ones.
With better manufacturing techniques today, some Toyotas are turning to have better quality results than some BMWs.
On the other hand, some more complicated vehicles like the BMW are going to have more problems because they are not run of the mill cars.
I think that the real key is how BMW reacts to fix the problem. I hope it is agreed that no sunroof should be making unexpected noises. To "whine" that an expensive car is producing an unexplained noise is not really whining. I do believe that we should expect easy problems to be solved easily.
I love this site because everyone is helpful and the code of conduct is to support, not attack one another. We all have really nice 5 series cars. I welcome the "newbie" to the board (I was there just a few months ago myself), and I look forward to his future reports on his new vehicle.
Best,
08-30-2006, 04:29 PM
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Its not the engine thing. its the way he presented himself and the way he complained about his problems. it was a bad approach and put a bad name to him as a new member.
08-30-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='328930' date='Aug 30 2006, 07:29 PM
Its not the engine thing. its the way he presented himself and the way he complained about his problems. it was a bad approach and put a bad name to him as a new member.
08-30-2006, 05:13 PM
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And don't get me wrong, his response to your post was less than charming, but your response to him did not win any friendship prizes either... 
08-30-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol' post='328939' date='Aug 30 2006, 06:09 PM
Sorry but his initial post simply commented on his issues, your response brought up whining comment and things went downhill from there. According to you even you whine sometimes, is it not OK for him to have the same latitude? Others then chimed in with cracks about the engine. I have been on this board for a long time but it still amazes when that someone does want to vent/complain/whine, folks don't take the comments very well. Not everyone is as satisfied with their purchase as we are. Sometimes the complaints are valid, sometimes they're not, but he is certainly allowed to vent.
Did you read my post(s)? I said its ok to whine but the way he approached his whining is what bugged me. So I can post whatever I want. and if the Mods dont like it they can delete it. And whatever direction this thread goes... uphill or downhill is not under my control.
Sure vent... but vent in a way where its reasonable.
08-30-2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol' post='328940' date='Aug 30 2006, 06:13 PM
And don't get me wrong, his response to your post was less than charming, but your response to him did not win any friendship prizes either...
If his first post wasnt good then mine doenst need to be a love vee dove vee post.
08-30-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='328941' date='Aug 30 2006, 08:16 PM
Did you read my post(s)? I said its ok to whine but the way he approached his whining is what bugged me. So I can post whatever I want. and if the Mods dont like it they can delete it. And whatever direction this thread goes... uphill or downhill is not under my control.
Sure vent... but vent in a way where its reasonable.
Sure vent... but vent in a way where its reasonable.
08-30-2006, 05:29 PM
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Dude try to look over the word "whine" I said its ok to whine... What I said was the way he approached his whining... He made it sound like everything is suppose to be 100% perfect for him. The world revolves around him and if BMW cant provide him with the 100% perfect flawless car then he's going to go back to his Land Rover.
08-30-2006, 05:40 PM
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Dude! My post acknowledged that you said it was OK to whine. Not sure that one approach is better that the when it comes to whining.
My only point was that this kind of post is usually met with the kind of response that the first folks gave, "look here for a similar problem" or "sorry to hear you're having issues". The "stop your whining, go back to your old car" kind of response belongs on Roadfly. Oops, hope I don't get banned for using that word here.
Anyway, I'm sure one of the Mods will step in and shut this thread down quickly, as they should!
Have a good night!
My only point was that this kind of post is usually met with the kind of response that the first folks gave, "look here for a similar problem" or "sorry to hear you're having issues". The "stop your whining, go back to your old car" kind of response belongs on Roadfly. Oops, hope I don't get banned for using that word here.
Anyway, I'm sure one of the Mods will step in and shut this thread down quickly, as they should!
Have a good night!