Yes, in Canada we suffer from high prices for literally everything, especially cars. While the US basks in the glory of low priced cars

 

These heavy claims and the usage of the word 'considerably' sparked my interest so I did a bit of reading and researching. This video shows a 535i running a tune (60%).

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Would you say that this video somewhat depicts your experience running a tuned 535i? Not that an e39 m5 is slow or anything, but it can't even walk an e39 m5?!?! As an e60 550i owner, it has been my observation that a stock 550i will hang on to an e39 m5 just as that 'tuned' 535i was hanging on to that e39 m5 in that video. A tuned/lightened 550i however would have put a car length on the e39 m5 in 3-4 seconds, even if the e39 was driven by a good driver. That's just the way it is.

Also, I see you point at the 550i carefully in your comment above since you already know Joe's old 545i and at least another voiced member on this board have had success beating stock e60 m5's with consistent results. It's cute that you want to try and make a point, but at least have the dignity not to hide the truth with strategic wordplay.

 

Wow, I haven't seen that old jb+ video in a long time. A jb+ is the cheapest tune you can get, and he is runnng it at ~1/2 "power"... I'm very interested to hear what exactly you "could/would do" to tune and lighten a 550 to make it competitive. Seriously, I'd like to hear it.

n54-5&3 has a video up on the n54tech board with nothing but a jb4/ dci and pump gas. He was at 13.2 in the 1/4 at 106.91. He also had a 4.2 0-60. Or a full 1.2 seconds faster than a stock 550i.

lmao, somebody has gotten defensive huh? I pointed at the 550 carefully? I simply said a 535i with a jb4 or similar is going to be considerably faster than any stock or modified 550 on this board... That is a fact and it pisses you off... sorry. I excluded the newer F10 twin-turbo 550i because those guys are getting insane numbers with the first tunes that have been available. I'm not sure who this Joe guy is you have Assumed I know of. Please share a link though, I'd love to see what all type of custom work he did to get it faster than an E60 M5.

It was hilarious that you post a vid of a 535i with the cheapest tune running at ~50% to support your side of the debate and then attempt to accuse me of using strategic wordplay. Projecting?

To get back to the basics... If you spend $400-500 dollars on the $8,000-$9,000 cheaper 535i you will have a car that is considerably faster, lighter, and more fuel efficient.. but otherwise pretty much identical.

Just for some stock vs. stock kicks, I'll post the opinion of a non-biased Edmunds journalist who has driven both the 2008 550i and 2008 535i:

 

Why are we back to arguing about 550 (stock or tuned.. without a ridiculously expensive supercharger) vs 535 tuned (JB4, Dinan, Vishnu, Cobb)? It's not theory that a tuned 535 is faster.. it's just fact.. there's some amazing stuff that can be done with the turbos. If you are in love with the driving experience of the V8 then get it, if it not then save some money and pickup the 535 and tune it if you want. Also, as always.. the E60 does not have AWD for the 545/550. If you want AWD you're going to have to get a 535 (or 528).

 

How am I supposed to get a long drawn out 535 vs 550 debate if you bring logic to the thread?

btw- The is a 535xi on n54tech that recently ran a 12.87 @ 107.63mph in the 1/4!

 

get the 550 lci save yourself the trouble.. It comes with MTECH bodykit

 

Perhaps Joe from Trinity? He had nitrous on his 545i iirc.

I drive a generously modded 550i of which I recently finished the first round of bolt-on's..CAI, TB, Headers, Exhaust, LSD, lightened tons of stuff, blah blah blah. It barely hangs on to (but does not yet beat) my buddies stock 2006 e60 m5 unless we're doing short launches, so I can see how a comment such as 'considerably faster' could be seen as a bit excessive, especially since the performance window between a modded 550i and a stock e60 m5 isn't that big anyways and doesn't allow anything in between to be 'considerably faster' without being fast enough to pull on a stock e60 m5 as well. Just my take.

I sort of wish the 550i was cheaper to work on like the 535i, but money and some additional weight aside, I'd rather have a v8 with a supercharger than a six with even a couple larger aftermarket turbo's.

 

I love the 550, but I'm just a V8 guy - love the grunt. Mileage stinks but it's just money

 

If I had a 550i, and wanted to smoke a tuned 535i, I would take the money that supercharger costs ($8k-$9k uninstalled) and put it in a twin-turbo F10 550i.

That F10 550i with a Hartage tune is claiming 490 hp & 531 lb-ft

With a Dinan Stage 1 tune they are claiming 495 hp & 573 lb-ft, we can probably expect higher numbers when other tuners take a crack at it.

 

It's same situation for E46 M3 vs 335i, it was a lot battles on M3 forum, but all races came to one conclusion: E46 M3 much faster, about length of the car.
About MPG: I want to see city/hwy (50/50) numbers mpg.
Mine does around 18.5 - 20 mpg, for 12 miles commute with heavy traffic, but sometime parts of road is 55-60 mph moving traffic.