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Thanks to all of you for your answers. From what I see right now, looks like a part of the difference in engine weight, can easily sneak into the difference in front/rear percentage distribution - 49.8% - 52.5% can account for a lot of weight. And probably what's left 30-40 kg can be easily managed by slightly shifting some parts more to the back.
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Originally Posted by big_ipaq' post='339119' date='Sep 27 2006, 11:47 AM
Thanks to all of you for your answers. From what I see right now, looks like a part of the difference in engine weight, can easily sneak into the difference in front/rear percentage distribution - 49.8% - 52.5% can account for a lot of weight. And probably what's left 30-40 kg can be easily managed by slightly shifting some parts more to the back.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='339120' date='Sep 27 2006, 09:50 AM
Yeah but we still haven't found out exactly what parts. ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/rolleyes.gif)
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As far as I'm concerned, the answer of diff/transmission, uprated suspension and brakes (for performance and weight reasons) and relocation of some componentry suffices. If I really want a perfect 50/50 balance, I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='339130' date='Sep 27 2006, 12:35 PM
If you think someone is going to start going around BMW dealers and asking them for a diff box for a 535d and one for a 525i, and weigh them, you should think again
As far as I'm concerned, the answer of diff/transmission, uprated suspension and brakes (for performance and weight reasons) and relocation of some componentry suffices. If I really want a perfect 50/50 balance, I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot![Laughing](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/laughing.gif)
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As far as I'm concerned, the answer of diff/transmission, uprated suspension and brakes (for performance and weight reasons) and relocation of some componentry suffices. If I really want a perfect 50/50 balance, I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='339130' date='Sep 27 2006, 10:35 AM
I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot
And you're worried about the weight of the engine and diff?
Eat another burger.
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='339256' date='Sep 27 2006, 06:31 PM
As i said before... think about your OWN weight, the weight of any passengers and the weight of the fuel.
And you're worried about the weight of the engine and diff?
Eat another burger.
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And you're worried about the weight of the engine and diff?
Eat another burger.
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I'd rather not carry passengers when I do the type of manoeuvres that all this talk of testing the weight distribution and reducing polar moment would imply. A puke shampoo is not amongst my favourite beauty treatments
And I don't like burgers!
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(If I was REALLY worried about weight, I'd have bought an Ariel Atom, or even better a superbike. More seriously, you are absolutely right re: the real world. With 60kgs of fuel sloshing about, there's more than enough to shift balances by a comparable amount to the existing differences)
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='339341' date='Sep 27 2006, 10:14 PM
Well, my weight (more than enough, to be sure) is roughly central with respect to the car
Perhaps you DO need a passenger (AND a bag of cement) to improve the balance.
Or, starting a whole new set of discussions is does the EMPTY car not have a 50-50 weight distribution SIDE-TO-SIDE which is immediately imbalanced by the presence of the driver?
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='339130' date='Sep 27 2006, 05:35 PM
If you think someone is going to start going around BMW dealers and asking them for a diff box for a 535d and one for a 525i, and weigh them, you should think again
As far as I'm concerned, the answer of diff/transmission, uprated suspension and brakes (for performance and weight reasons) and relocation of some componentry suffices. If I really want a perfect 50/50 balance, I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot![Laughing](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/laughing.gif)
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As far as I'm concerned, the answer of diff/transmission, uprated suspension and brakes (for performance and weight reasons) and relocation of some componentry suffices. If I really want a perfect 50/50 balance, I can always drive with a 50kg bag of cement in the boot
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='339459' date='Sep 28 2006, 02:08 AM
Unless you're driving something like a McLaren F1 then the driver's lateral position in the vehicle WILL influence any "puke-inducing" manoeuvres.
Perhaps you DO need a passenger (AND a bag of cement) to improve the balance.
Or, starting a whole new set of discussions is does the EMPTY car not have a 50-50 weight distribution SIDE-TO-SIDE which is immediately imbalanced by the presence of the driver?
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Perhaps you DO need a passenger (AND a bag of cement) to improve the balance.
Or, starting a whole new set of discussions is does the EMPTY car not have a 50-50 weight distribution SIDE-TO-SIDE which is immediately imbalanced by the presence of the driver?
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Originally Posted by VTbound' post='339619' date='Sep 28 2006, 06:45 PM
The empty car is slightly higher on the driver's side to compensate for the driver's weight.
Do we assume a passenger (shock, horror) would just totally throw all consideration of balance out of the window.
And... unless the fuel tank is mounted centrally left-to-right, some territories will have the fuel tank on the same side as the driver...
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