Very Sckeptical right now
12-09-2004, 04:22 AM
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12-09-2004, 04:30 AM
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Germans are not known for their proficiency with electronics.
They build good engines. Not good computers.
These new cars are basically computers on wheels.
They build good engines. Not good computers.
These new cars are basically computers on wheels.
12-09-2004, 04:41 AM
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Due to the amount of programming and electronics in these new cars, its very hard to let it go on the market without any bugs and errors. The most common operating systems in the world (windows), have the same problems.
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12-09-2004, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by maylander739' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:41 AM
Due to the amount of programming and electronics in these new cars, its very hard to let it go on the market without any bugs and errors.? The most common operating systems in the world (windows), have the same problems.
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thats my problem with this situation, BMW's are not common cars, why would they use the most common and troublesome OS???
Steve Jobs where are you when we need you???
12-09-2004, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by m630' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:49 AM
[quote name='maylander739' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:41 AM']Due to the amount of programming and electronics in these new cars, its very hard to let it go on the market without any bugs and errors.? The most common operating systems in the world (windows), have the same problems.
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thats my problem with this situation, BMW's are not common cars, why would they use the most common and troublesome OS???
Steve Jobs where are you when we need you???
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[/quote]don't even go there....
12-09-2004, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by m630' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:49 AM
[quote name='maylander739' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:41 AM']Due to the amount of programming and electronics in these new cars, its very hard to let it go on the market without any bugs and errors.? The most common operating systems in the world (windows), have the same problems.
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thats my problem with this situation, BMW's are not common cars, why would they use the most common and troublesome OS???
Steve Jobs where are you when we need you???
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[/quote]don't even go there....
when I googled iDrive and BMW I found out that iDrive is programmed in Java.
12-09-2004, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ipp' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:57 AM
[quote name='m630' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:49 AM'][quote name='maylander739' date='Dec 9 2004, 08:41 AM']Due to the amount of programming and electronics in these new cars, its very hard to let it go on the market without any bugs and errors.? The most common operating systems in the world (windows), have the same problems.
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thats my problem with this situation, BMW's are not common cars, why would they use the most common and troublesome OS???
Steve Jobs where are you when we need you???
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[/quote]don't even go there....
when I googled iDrive and BMW I found out that iDrive is programmed in Java.
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[/quote]there you go,
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
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ipp:when I googled iDrive and BMW I found out that iDrive is programmed in Java.
there you go,
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
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12-09-2004, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ipp' date='Dec 9 2004, 09:50 AM
ipp:when I googled iDrive and BMW I found out that iDrive is programmed in Java.
there you go,
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
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Idrive is running Windows CE as the OS system
as for Steve...I wish they went with MAC (UNIX), much more reliable and not prone to all these bugs
12-09-2004, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by m630' date='Dec 9 2004, 03:56 PM
[quote name='ipp' date='Dec 9 2004, 09:50 AM']
yeah but what has this to do with Steve Jobs? And who said anything about MS? Not me...
ipp:when I googled iDrive and BMW I found out that iDrive is programmed in Java.
there you go,
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
we just found the source of the problem with iDrive....MS doesnt like SUN Java, and always has conflicts as MS is still trying to bury SUN
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Idrive is running Windows CE as the OS system
as for Steve...I wish they went with MAC (UNIX), much more reliable and not prone to all these bugs
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[/quote]ok, I don't agree. I like OS X, it's pretty reliable, but not better than XP. On my firm we have a couple of IBM ThinkPads an a couple of PoweBook G4s. I will stick with my XP computer util that day there is ONE thing you can do with your Mac wich you can't with your XP machine... ooooh no I didn't want to go here...
Idrive is running Windows CE as the OS system?