Phantom Mark

I always get this when I am pulling away from T-Junctions, I assumed it was normal and changed my pull away style to suit, never seem to get this when pulling away and going straight ahead ? Its like having a huge elastic band between my throttle input and the transmission responding followed by a small but annoying jerk.

ivan545

I think Bmw should do a recall for this issue and replace our transmission but it would be costly. I know they want to save money, but what if someone gets hurt in the long run there will be a class action lawsuit to follow since most of us have this problem do you guys not agree with me.

cocy00

Its definitely the transmission. I have a friend who rebuilds transmission and my first E60 (530i 2004), I had a rebuilt trans put in it and its still going strong with 90k on it and no slam...

craigm1841

i think if think if people get hurt they will get money, and everyone else will get transmissions.

ENstig8or

The worst part is when you're on an incline, the car will actually roll backwards until it goes into gear. It's actually like the car goes into neutral when you come to a stop. I had mine in for the software update and it worked for about a week, then it came back. That's twice I've had it in for this. It's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. I'll give them time to fix it, but if we get into the 4th attempt and there is still no resolution, I think NJ's lemon law might come into play.

Krozi

Brit_in_NJ

This has been an issue for a long time back to '04 cars! I haven't had an issue going up an incline but slowing down on an incline (my parking garage at work) then hitting the gas (not hard) causes a downshift some significant moments after pressing the gas. Similar to dropping the clutch in a manual. I've had to learn to shift out of DS which seems to prevent the undesirable quick downshift. I've spun my wheels several times when forgetting, terrifying people that are parking and making me look look like a jerk trying to show off.

cobradav

You have a transmission control chip called EGS much like your DME that manages the engine. In fact they communicate with each other and often times the software update may be to both units. Software fixes to either or both would control shift points (up or down) at certain RPM, certain lateral accelerations (ABS sensor), braking force, hill holding, etc. It is a "managed" process and requires .

There are slams, clunks, bumps, etc that occur at different times/events for different issues/symptoms. I'll point to a couple here and let you sort out your own:

1)

SI B 24 08 08
Automatic Transmission December 2008
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B24 08 08 dated October 2008.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
E62, E70 with 6HP19TU - Transmission Clunks after Engine Start


MODEL
E60, E61 with N52K or N54 and 6HP19TU produced from 03/07 up to 09/08

E70 (X5 3.0) with N52K and 6HP19TU produced from 12/06 up to 10/08


SITUATION
The customer may complain about a clunking noise heard from the transmission, sometimes accompanied by a "bang", felt in the rear of the vehicle after engine start-up. This complaint can be intermittently reproduced when the transmission is in the P position (the noise and/or jolt does not occur when the selector gear is placed in N).

CAUSE
EGS software calibration in regards to the transmission self-check test on the engine start

SOLUTION
On a customer complaint basis only, check the vehicle's integration level.

If the integration level is:

On E60, E61 vehicles - E060-08-03-550 or lower

On E70 vehicles ? E070-08-05-525 or lower

Reprogram and recode the complete vehicle with a current Progman version (V31.1 or higher). The target integration levels are E060-08-09-520 or E070-08-09-520, respectively, for E60, E61 and E70 vehicles.


2)

SI B 24 03 09
Automatic Transmission April 2009
Technical Service

SUBJECT
550i and 650i with N62TU and 6HP26 - Various Drivability Complaints


MODEL
E60, 550iA produced from 09/05 up to 02/07

E63, E64; 650i produced from 09/05 up to 09/07


SITUATION
The customer may complain about one or a combination of the following situations, listed below:

Intermittent harsh 4-3, 3-2 or 2-1 downshift (jolt) when coming to a stop with light brake application.

Jolts and/or jerks felt when reaccelerating after coasting.

Judder when gently accelerating (most noticeable at an engine speed below 2,000 RPM).

CAUSE
DME and EGS software calibration

SOLUTION
Program the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.33.0 or later, using the path "Conversion" and "Downshift behavior". After this modification, the k-word "HADS" will be added to the Vehicle Order.

Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the latest software.

and 3)

SI B 24 03 08
Automatic Transmission January 2009
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B24 03 08 dated July 2008.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
E9x, E6x with 6HP19TU - Jolt and Delay when Pulling Away


MODEL
E90, E92, E93 (335i) with N54 and 6HP19TU from 03/07

E60, E61 (535i) with N54 and 6HP19TU from 03/07

E60 (528i) with N52K and 6HP19TU from 03/07


SITUATION
The customer may complain of a delayed engagement and a harsh jolt when accelerating from a stop.

The situation occurs only during the engine warm-up phase (cold engine), and cannot be reproduced in the Sport Mode.

CAUSE
EGS software (unfavorable NIC ? Neutral Idle Control) calibration

SOLUTION
On a customer complaint basis only, check the vehicle's integration level.

If the integration level is:

On E9x vehicles - E89x-07-06-520 or lower

On E6x N54 vehicles - E060-07-09-530 or lower

On E60 N52K vehicles ? E060-08-03-550 or lower

Reprogram and recode the complete vehicle with a current Progman version (target levels are E89x-07-09-518; E060-08-03-510; and E060-08-09-520, respectively, for E9x, E6x N54 and E6x N52K vehicles).

Important Note:

The NIC (Neutral Idle Control) feature disengages the torque converter from the transmission when the vehicle is stationary in the Drive position; the service brakes are applied; and the engine is still in the warm-up phase. The NIC function eliminates engine load when vehicle is stopped, reducing fuel consumption.

Although the EGS software changes (as listed above) are improving transmission comfort feel while still providing the benefits of the NIC feature, they still may not be acceptable for the most discriminating customers.

In such a case, on a customer complaint basis only, deactivate the NIC function by performing the "Converter lockup clutch" retrofit, using the current Progman/ISTA P version.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

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vlad_b

cobradav, thank you for SIB's. the last one actually may apply to me.

"deactivate the NIC function by performing the "Converter lockup clutch" retrofit" it's interesting i never heard of that before

Brit_in_NJ

Thanks!

Hmmm number 2) SI B 24 03 09 Seems the closest but I have 545 that just before the start date. I'll need to chat to my service rep again.