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Old 08-22-2013, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gilgorm
TPMS uses the in-wheel sensors and all wheels operate independently and have nothing to do with the ABS system. My 08 535i only showed air loss if it was below 5-6 psi or more and came on a number of times during my ownership. It would only show the individual tire that was at fault.
FTM (Flat Tire Monitor) does not use in-wheel sensors but relies solely on the ABS system. It typically only indicates a problem only if the tire is virtually flat, especially with run-flats that maintain their shape. The FTM senses when one (or more) tires is rotating at a different speed from the others (just like ABS).
My F10 has FTM (BMW Canada is cheap) while my retired E60 had TPMS.
The FTM only came on when my run-flat tire was completely flat.

IMO, the TPMS is the best system as long as the in-wheel sensors are working.
Tire-pressure monitoring system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In wikipedia the ABS system is refered to as indirect TPMS. The sensor system by Direct TPMS.


If have the ABS system with Runflat tire. It worked perfectly, one tire had a small puncture which wasn't noticable looking at the tire. Measuring the pressure there was still over 1.5 BAR pressure in it.
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Originally Posted by Gilgorm
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My F10 has FTM (BMW Canada is cheap) while my retired E60 had TPMS.
The FTM only came on when my run-flat tire was completely flat.

IMO, the TPMS is the best system as long as the in-wheel sensors are working.
In some markets BMW went back to the FTM system, and I am surprised Canada is one of them. Reduced weight and less cost is their reasoning. US regulations now mandate TPMS for all new cars.
The new F10s here show the following info. in iDrive:
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If have the ABS system with Runflat tire. It worked perfectly, one tire had a small puncture which wasn't noticable looking at the tire. Measuring the pressure there was still over 1.5 BAR pressure in it.
Even when my tire was completely flat with 0 psi/BAR, the run-flat looked exactly like the others. However, I did notice that the tire was 'squirmy' and something was obviously wrong. The tire had a 3.5 inch tapcon screw dead centre in the tread. I filled the tire to 40 psi, reset the FTM and drove to my tire specialist. It was only as I pulled into the garage that the iDrive popped on and the FTM told me I was driving on a flat tire (0 psi/BAR). And as advertised after a number of km, the tire sidewalls were starting to flex outward. The tire was completely shot and had to be replaced.
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In some markets BMW went back to the FTM system, and I am surprised Canada is one of them. Reduced weight and less cost is their reasoning. US regulations now mandate TPMS for all new cars.
The new F10s here show the following info. in iDrive:

My F10 has the same image (English, of course) without the readings. The tires are as shown in green. The FTM does tell you which tire is flat.
The paper manual discusses both systems while my on-board manual only shows specs for my car so only shows the FTM pages.
BMW Canada is cheap.
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