Steptronic Shift Direction!
03-04-2005, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Mar 4 2005, 06:51 PM
[quote name='MARCUS545' date='Mar 5 2005, 01:42 AM']Since it's all electronic why can't they make the direction of shifting one of the options in I-drive so you can program it the way you want it?
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[/quote]Gee...that wouldn't void the warranty at all...would it?
03-04-2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MARCUS545' date='Mar 5 2005, 01:58 AM
[quote name='Iceman' date='Mar 4 2005, 06:51 PM'][quote name='MARCUS545' date='Mar 5 2005, 01:42 AM']Since it's all electronic why can't they make the direction of shifting one of the options in I-drive so you can program it the way you want it?
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[/quote]Gee...that wouldn't void the warranty at all...would it?
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[/quote]I don't think so. The only problem is, that the signs (next to the shifter) are not correct anymore... But, hey, you know in whic direction you have to shift...
03-04-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by speedracerF4i' date='Mar 4 2005, 06:38 PM
Not it's not! It's against the weight transfer law.
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Originally Posted by cobradav' date='Mar 4 2005, 07:08 PM
I've read a BMW article claiming this is the way F1 is - Acceleration causes you to pull back; deceleration causes you to push forward, hence their current logic.? Although I follow their logic, it is not for me.? So since I am the only driver I intend to change it soon.? Simple reversal of the control leads going into the connector on the shift lever.? Can?t do anything with the console markings as far as I know,? but as long as I?m driving who cares, right?
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What doesn't make sense is the way M-B does it on their automatics -- they do a left/right thing, not a forward/backward thing. Makes no sense at all...
03-04-2005, 06:13 PM
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Actually to me, they are just making it different from others. All reasoning, logical or illogical, actually doesn't really matter.
Actually to me, they are just making it different from others. All reasoning, logical or illogical, actually doesn't really matter.
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Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Mar 4 2005, 07:48 PM
[quote name='speedracerF4i' date='Mar 4 2005, 06:38 PM']Not it's not! It's against the weight transfer law.
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Originally Posted by cobradav' date='Mar 4 2005, 07:08 PM
I've read a BMW article claiming this is the way F1 is - Acceleration causes you to pull back; deceleration causes you to push forward, hence their current logic.? Although I follow their logic, it is not for me.? So since I am the only driver I intend to change it soon.? Simple reversal of the control leads going into the connector on the shift lever.? Can?t do anything with the console markings as far as I know,? but as long as I?m driving who cares, right?
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What doesn't make sense is the way M-B does it on their automatics -- they do a left/right thing, not a forward/backward thing. Makes no sense at all...
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[/quote]So the step works in the same direction as SMG now? forward for downshift, back for upshift? If so, cool, because I am used to SMG and will be getting Steptronic soon
03-04-2005, 08:37 PM
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I just don't see the issue. They have made it work just like any manual. 1 = top left, 2 = pull back toward driver, 3 = push up and right, 4 = pull back toward driver... pretty simple if you ask me. Push forward = down shift, pull back = upshift. Directionally the moves are the same, just missing a bit side-to-side motion.
03-04-2005, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol' date='Mar 5 2005, 12:37 AM
I just don't see the issue.? They have made it work just like any manual. 1 = top left, 2 = pull back toward driver, 3 = push up and right, 4 = pull back toward driver...? pretty simple if you ask me.?? Push forward = down shift, pull back = upshift.? Directionally the moves are the same, just missing a bit side-to-side motion.
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In a manual, if I'm in first gear and want to upshift to second, I need to pull the lever back. If I'm in second and want to upshift to third, I need to push it forward. Obviously the same situation exists as you move up and down through the gears. Only in an SMG or a Steptronic will you be able to always upshift by pulling and always downshift by pushing...
03-04-2005, 11:03 PM
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I like how BMW has it set up now. I admit it was weird at first but its perfectly fine now. BUT now it screws me up when I go drive other cars
I like how BMW has it set up now. I admit it was weird at first but its perfectly fine now. BUT now it screws me up when I go drive other cars
03-08-2005, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='Mar 5 2005, 02:03 AM
*Phew* Glad I wasnt the only confused one...?
I like how BMW has it set up now. I admit it was weird at first but its perfectly fine now. BUT now it screws me up when I go drive other cars?
I like how BMW has it set up now. I admit it was weird at first but its perfectly fine now. BUT now it screws me up when I go drive other cars?
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Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Mar 5 2005, 12:28 AM
ks -- you've lost me...
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