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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Anyone here played with the pedal mapping for better shifting? Sprint boosters?

I find the throttle lag annoying - it's also more noticeable on naturally aspirated V8s (540, 545, 550) which have weaker low-end torque. A paradox here is that diesels E60 has no noticeable throttle lag despite introducing a theoretical turbo lag, due to a different torque curve in low RPMs.

It's not so much the problem of taking off in 2nd gear when in D mode by default. What is more annoying is overtaking or accelerating from circa 40mph. You have to kick the throttle VERY deep to force the hesitating transmission to downshift from 5/6th gear to 3rd gear. No accelerating until you hit that spot and once you do, the car takes off like a rocket - too aggressive and often harsh. The lag frame is unnatural, acceleration is not smooth and probably embarrassing with passengers in the car. Doesn't happen always, but often.

I understand the reasons behind this new mapping introduced after E39 and E46 but at least it should be tweaked on 540/545/550 or other higher performance models for more enthusiastic customers. You're not buying a 300 horsepower car if your driving skills are like your grandmother's. No need for safe and constumption-wise throttle.

Everything is fine and mapping is great in DS mode but still, has anyone played with pedal-to-transmission mapping in D mode besides Sprint booster? I also heard it damages TPS after a while.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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I just drive in DS most of the time unless I'm on the highway. There's always that lag in D but that's what we got DS for! If need be while im on the highway I'll throw the shifter over to DS and drop the gear down manually myself.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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Sprint Booster v.2 with the Green light setting fixed my lag. The red light setting felt a little too touchy for my daily driver.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kreveta
I find the throttle lag annoying - it's also more noticeable on naturally aspirated V8s (540, 545, 550) which have weaker low-end torque.
More noticeable than what?
Weaker low-end torque than what?

Not my experience - yes, improved by the fact that I have a manual transmission. My car pulls just fine off idle up to redline. The throttle mapping sucks on these cars from the factory, one of the reasons I very much like the Dinan software - it makes the throttle response linear and much easier to modulate.

Can't comment on your transmission issues.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jm545i
More noticeable than what?
Weaker low-end torque than what?
Than on super/turbocharged petrol engines, or diesels, from my experience. Supercharged petrols and turbo-diesels torque blast at ±1700 RPM, while naturally aspirated engines deliver torque and performance in the upper 3000 RPMs.

Of course manual transmission is totally different in this regard.

But throttle mapping and auto-transmission shifts are related. The transmission doesn't downshift smoothly 1 gear down because the throttle jumps from (for example) 30% to 60% right away. As there is this hole, transmission downshifts 2 gears and the acceleration is neither useful nor comfortable in normal city driving.

How does DINAN software mod work? U buy some kit and upload it to your ECU on your own?
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kreveta
How does DINAN software mod work? U buy some kit and upload it to your ECU on your own?
I agree with you on your other comments.

You know I didn't notice that you are in Euro-land. There might be an alternate product available. The Dinan software requires a dealer install.

They used to offer re-programmed transmission chips/software, which worked to more aggressively tune the automatic shifting - it doesn't look like that's the case any more.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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Yep, Dinan is unfortunately not present in Europe as far as I know (if they are, they don't have anything for my particular 540i european LCI model anyway).
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