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Old 10-28-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='1041984' date='Oct 28 2009, 10:51 AM
I know the pump is made in Italy, I already found an employee of Denso/Magneti Marelli.
I have to send him what I read on the label and will see if he will be able to find one.

Recently I saw an F430 with the rear bumper and I noticed the same pump, just a little bigger
I searched e60 and found the part number though it says hydraulic repair kit. It's is #23427571297 which is the pump for
all non M SMG. According to realoem, it listed as lil over $400 and I emailed Garry this morning for the price with discount and told me
$290 plus shipping So, that just clarify me that I can get the pump and for cheap. Now I can sleep better at night that when the pump fails,
it won't break my wallet

PS Just for the heck of it, I searched realoem for e46 m3 smg pump and firstly, they don't sell the pump only(they sell pump and the accumulator) and it listed as $1900.
Damn M parts
Old 11-23-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pughmat' post='1027082' date='Oct 7 2009, 03:49 PM
Here are rounded numbers for the cost to replace the SMP pump from a non-dealer repair shop. Located in Kansas if that matters....perhaps cheaper than east coast / west coast shops.

SMG Pump Repair Kit - $340
ABS Relay - $25
Labor - $400
Tax - $60

Total - $825
Well well well - two months and 2000 miles and everything happened again today.....once again, I had the transmission fail safe warning (restricted to 1-3rd and R) on the way to work followed by the SES light on the way. Parked the car at the office, went out for lunch, no transmission warning, car drives fine (SES light still on). Turning into the office after lunch and transmission fault, stuck in neutral at a stoplight. Hazzards on, people behind me mad....had to restart the car three times, finally went back to normal driving, no transmission warnings (SES light still on). UGH!!!!!!!!! I love this car, butI'm about ready to sell it. It's just not reliable right now.

Back to the shop tomorrow. I sure hope I didn't pay $800 to fix something that wasn't broke. It did work for two months without issue though. I'll follow up again.
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WOW it happend again?
One thing I'm considering is that, maybe SMG is such a rare that indy shops don't have enough experience with it. There could be small neglegence/mistakes
can end up breakage. Good luck and keep us updated.
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damn it's scary... looking forward to your updates

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Originally Posted by Ellicit' post='1061752' date='Nov 24 2009, 01:52 PM
damn it's scary... looking forward to your updates

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Problem found - Slave cylinder has now gone bad too. Now that the pump is actually pumping again (with the correct amount of fluid / pressure), the slave cylinder has apparently failed. In fact, when I was leaving my garage I noticed a large amount of fluid on the floor as well. I've also noticed some shuddering again and it could be that there is a problem with the clutch as well or possibly leaked fluid on the clutch. If that's the case, I could be looking at a repair job there too for over $1000. Fun stuff.

Anyway, for those of us with SMG's the local shop indicated $1100 for parts and $300 for labor on the slave cylinder. Just for grins, the slave cylinder part for a non-smg, about $75.

If anything else turns up, I'll update. Hope the rest of you don't suffer the same trouble. I have about 78,000 now on my 2005 530i SMG.
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Originally Posted by pughmat' post='1061808' date='Nov 24 2009, 03:49 PM
Problem found - Slave cylinder has now gone bad too. Now that the pump is actually pumping again (with the correct amount of fluid / pressure), the slave cylinder has apparently failed. In fact, when I was leaving my garage I noticed a large amount of fluid on the floor as well. I've also noticed some shuddering again and it could be that there is a problem with the clutch as well or possibly leaked fluid on the clutch. If that's the case, I could be looking at a repair job there too for over $1000. Fun stuff.

Anyway, for those of us with SMG's the local shop indicated $1100 for parts and $300 for labor on the slave cylinder. Just for grins, the slave cylinder part for a non-smg, about $75.

If anything else turns up, I'll update. Hope the rest of you don't suffer the same trouble. I have about 78,000 now on my 2005 530i SMG.

so you already spent $800, now another $1400?
that does suck man... but i know getting the car back on the road is priceless...
maybe you should also look into getting an aftermarket warranty?
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Originally Posted by Ellicit' post='1061871' date='Nov 24 2009, 04:04 PM
so you already spent $800, now another $1400?
that does suck man... but i know getting the car back on the road is priceless...
maybe you should also look into getting an aftermarket warranty?
Apparently, these kinds of parts are scare for a non-M SMG car, at least according to my non-dealer shop. It took about two weeks to have a part sent from Germany. Car was not drivable during the wait time. The shudder seems to have gone away as a result.

Total cost with install and tax was $1500.

Hope this does not become a regular thing for those of you with SMG cars.
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Who is Garry? That can get parts at such a good discount?
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Who is Garry? That can get parts at such a good discount?
Figured it out should have searched. Garry at Newport BMW.
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