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12-28-2006, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by speedracerF4i' post='367147' date='Dec 14 2006, 01:50 AM
[...] my wife does drive my car like it was automatic. [...] LIke 95% of the driving population. [...]
12-29-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by katheikia' post='371796' date='Dec 28 2006, 06:23 PM
Yea, I agree...Whats up with the SMG bashing from non SMG owners...IMHO you shouldnt even be posting under this thread if you do not currently have an SMG. I have had all three gear boxes and think the SMG is the best. If you dont own one, how can you have an opinion 
I have driven E60 M5 and I didn't like the box - in my opinion, gearchange was way
too rough. That influenced my next purchase, current E60 550i Steptronic.
Why is SMG the best ?
Ever heard of DSG ?
Ever driven or have been in a car with DSG gearbox ?
This is a forum hence I don't see why people get excited about this matter, it is very subjective topic.
If SMG or any other box was superior to others - in short time span we would see demise of other(s), be that a stick, steptronic or SMG. Clearly, that's not the case - in other words, no gearbox is perfect and that is why BMW has 3 different types on offer, for different drivers and driving styles.
Saying all this - if you lived any closer, I'd invite you to local track and smoke your SMG with my "automatic box" :-)
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12-29-2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage.za' post='372111' date='Dec 29 2006, 12:24 PM
Original post was about people who have or have driven SMG.
I have driven E60 M5 and I didn't like the box - in my opinion, gearchange was way
too rough. That influenced my next purchase, current E60 550i Steptronic.
Why is SMG the best ?
Ever heard of DSG ?
Ever driven or have been in a car with DSG gearbox ?
This is a forum hence I don't see why people get excited about this matter, it is very subjective topic.
If SMG or any other box was superior to others - in short time span we would see demise of other(s), be that a stick, steptronic or SMG. Clearly, that's not the case - in other words, no gearbox is perfect and that is why BMW has 3 different types on offer, for different drivers and driving styles.
Saying all this - if you lived any closer, I'd invite you to local track and smoke your SMG with my "automatic box" :-)
A.
I have driven E60 M5 and I didn't like the box - in my opinion, gearchange was way
too rough. That influenced my next purchase, current E60 550i Steptronic.
Why is SMG the best ?
Ever heard of DSG ?
Ever driven or have been in a car with DSG gearbox ?
This is a forum hence I don't see why people get excited about this matter, it is very subjective topic.
If SMG or any other box was superior to others - in short time span we would see demise of other(s), be that a stick, steptronic or SMG. Clearly, that's not the case - in other words, no gearbox is perfect and that is why BMW has 3 different types on offer, for different drivers and driving styles.
Saying all this - if you lived any closer, I'd invite you to local track and smoke your SMG with my "automatic box" :-)
A.
The topic of this thread doesnt ask about DSG. I have never driven DSG for more than a few minutes, so I cant comment. You cant have a true opinion about SMG, unless you have driven beyond a test drive..PERIOD..Were do you live, I would love to meet you and see who smokes who...
12-29-2006, 08:38 AM
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Some reason when the topic of SMG comes up, SMG owners always have to defend their choice of transmission. I thought that the SMG tranny shines at the track and that the Step is best for straight line acceleration? Hence if two 550s went against one another at the track, the 550 SMG should win with everything else being equal. 
12-29-2006, 08:50 AM
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It looks like everyone defends there choice, wether its auto, smg or manual. I feel compelled to defend SMG because it always gets a bad rap from people who dont have it. I dont bash any of them. In the end its personal choice.
12-29-2006, 09:45 AM
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My Ride: 06 550 SMG |Comfort seats | sport, premium sound and cold weather packages | active steer | Navigation |comfort access | rear seat heat | rear seat fold down| sirius|
Man I hope I have not missed a great conversation/discussion!! 
I would definitelly agree on personal choice, my only isssue is that most people just do not understand what SMG really is and a lot of people generalize. I will just say that you need to drive it for at least 500 or 1k miles for you to realize what SMG really is.....
Having said this the feel is why I chose it, and would definitelly do it again !!
I would definitelly agree on personal choice, my only isssue is that most people just do not understand what SMG really is and a lot of people generalize. I will just say that you need to drive it for at least 500 or 1k miles for you to realize what SMG really is.....
Having said this the feel is why I chose it, and would definitelly do it again !!
12-29-2006, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='372116' date='Dec 29 2006, 07:38 PM
Some reason when the topic of SMG comes up, SMG owners always have to defend their choice of transmission. I thought that the SMG tranny shines at the track and that the Step is best for straight line acceleration? Hence if two 550s went against one another at the track, the 550 SMG should win with everything else being equal.
Recently, on Porsche Track Day (in my part of the world) I ended up being 1st out of 45 cars - my Carrera S Cup (Manual) was faster than many 997 Turbos. If anyone queries this I can take few photos of trophy etc. Therefore, I might be competent to discuss matters when it comes to track and racing. I will not repeat this again - SMG is 0.1 sec faster than Steptronic (BMW info). I am prepared to take that chance and bet my pennies on.......erm, me.
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12-29-2006, 11:11 AM
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Engine: RPi/Powerchips custom ECU tune, RPi Ram Air Kit (BMC filter, scoops), RennTech Sport exhaust, secondary cats, charcoal and resonator delete, custom AAA x-pipe
Exterior: 50% side windows / 35% rear window Formula One Pinnacle Series | Flat AMG hood emblem
Suspension: Renntech Lowering Module
Wheels/Tires: Radenergie R10, Falken FK452 245/30/20, Yokohama ADVAN Sport 285/25/20
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2005 545i Sport SMG | Ti Grau | Schwarzes Dakota | Anthracite Maple | Logic 7 | Nav
Engine: Custom AFE CAI, Superchips ECU remap, Sprint Booster, RDSport Dual Exhaust Conversion with Quad Pipes and X-pipe, 3 resonators deleted, 90mm tips!
Exterior: M-Tech Aero kit | M5 Mirrors | M5 Rear Bumper | Trunk Lid Finisher | Vorsteiner decklid spoiler | 50% Formula One Pinnacle Tint
Suspension and Brakes: Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, JBT BBK: 16" cross-drilled rotors, 8 piston and 15" cross-drilled rotors, 4 piston
Wheels: VIP Modular VR 02 20x9F, 20x10R | Toyo T1R 245/30/20F, 285/25/20R
Lights: PIAA 4150K Xtreme White Plus fog lights, AIB v3
MOST IMPORTANT: Hardwired V1; =)
ED Date: 4/7/05, Re-delivery date: 5/21/05
You're right. A lot of the time, regardless of everything else it boils down to driver skills. Sounds like you're a pretty good driver to me. 
12-29-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage.za' post='372149' date='Dec 29 2006, 02:40 PM
However, drivers are not the same
Recently, on Porsche Track Day (in my part of the world) I ended up being 1st out of 45 cars - my Carrera S Cup (Manual) was faster than many 997 Turbos. If anyone queries this I can take few photos of trophy etc. Therefore, I might be competent to discuss matters when it comes to track and racing. I will not repeat this again - SMG is 0.1 sec faster than Steptronic (BMW info). I am prepared to take that chance and bet my pennies on.......erm, me.
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Recently, on Porsche Track Day (in my part of the world) I ended up being 1st out of 45 cars - my Carrera S Cup (Manual) was faster than many 997 Turbos. If anyone queries this I can take few photos of trophy etc. Therefore, I might be competent to discuss matters when it comes to track and racing. I will not repeat this again - SMG is 0.1 sec faster than Steptronic (BMW info). I am prepared to take that chance and bet my pennies on.......erm, me.
A.
To each there own my friend, I would bet on me..
12-29-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by katheikia' post='372167' date='Dec 29 2006, 10:19 PM
To each there own my friend, I would bet on me..
There's a chance of becoming SMG member club - contemplating M6 cabrio for my Bday in March....
I might change my mind
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