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Old 09-13-2010, 07:10 AM
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Nice post.

What is the 0 to 60 time for 255hp 530? I wouldn't mind picking up a used na 530 down the road, as a second or third car. Prefer the pre LCI body, and better mpg of the six.
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this is an awesome article; very nice post

I'm sure some scientist or f1 engineer knows the exact 100pounds to 10horses ratio in real world environments like a race track
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thanks for the responses, guys glad you found the thread beneficial.

i think the 0-60mph is rated at 6.7s for the auto and 6.4 for the manual, though i have a hard time believing that 0-60mph times are always accurately reported by car manufacturers.

thanks for the response, diamond. i didn't know that about the 268hp engine. if you look at carfolio specs for the 2007 530i, it shows 268hp. so, they must have just gotten it wrong. but still i used the 255hp to derive at my original numbers in the first post anyway. from now on i will use the 255hp if any further info requests it.

i test drove a 2010 535i with an M sport's package and it did not feel much faster. i noticed more low-end torque, but on the 0-90mph WOT, after about 30mph, the acceleration felt very much the same as the 530i. my girlfriend didn't notice a difference either. like i mentioned earlier, i owned a very quick car before the BMW, so i can gauge quickness pretty good i think.

i dunno, maybe i just got a strong 530i
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Dude its like nobody reads a post on here-after a detailed post, maybe too detailed.

You did not much of a seach--

2006-2007- USA and EURO-- SAME 255 hp engine N52b30. In euro its reported in 258PS/DIN which is a slight measurement difference and equals 255 US hp. So one confusion is people saying we have "258 hp" --no we have 255 or 258 DIN

2008-2009-EURO ONLY-N53 engine-a 3.0L n52 mag/alum allow based engine with everything similar to the N52 except it has Direct injection FI and does not use valvetronic due to space limitiations v. the n52b30 uses valvetronic but no DI.
This has 272 DIN--or equivent 268 US hp.

So anytime you type in 530 hp--the following would be correct
-255, 258, 268, 272, 225, 228 (last two depending on if they were the 04 and 05 m54 engines in both hp and euro din)-dont get me confusin ya with those.

So whats to get--there were a hundred cars using the n52 engine-z4si, 330i2006, x3, x5 etc- Just google bmw n52b30 engine for more info on the specs.

arg-makes you mad for someone who spent so much detailed time posting mis-info starting this thread-read other threads in such detail
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Originally Posted by Diamond
Dude its like nobody reads a post on here-after a detailed post, maybe too detailed.

You did not much of a seach--

2006-2007- USA and EURO-- SAME 255 hp engine N52b30. In euro its reported in 258PS/DIN which is a slight measurement difference and equals 255 US hp. So one confusion is people saying we have "258 hp" --no we have 255 or 258 DIN

2008-2009-EURO ONLY-N53 engine-a 3.0L n52 mag/alum allow based engine with everything similar to the N52 except it has Direct injection FI and does not use valvetronic due to space limitiations v. the n52b30 uses valvetronic but no DI.
This has 272 DIN--or equivent 268 US hp.

So anytime you type in 530 hp--the following would be correct
-255, 258, 268, 272, 225, 228 (last two depending on if they were the 04 and 05 m54 engines in both hp and euro din)-dont get me confusin ya with those.

So whats to get--there were a hundred cars using the n52 engine-z4si, 330i2006, x3, x5 etc- Just google bmw n52b30 engine for more info on the specs.

arg-makes you mad for someone who spent so much detailed time posting mis-info starting this thread-read other threads in such detail
no i just edited my previous post. i did not see your post on page 2 after my first response. sorry, i'm caught up now
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Originally Posted by xenonrider
one factor you may not have considered is torque.
Originally Posted by ObD
Need the torque numbers in that table.
Originally Posted by Michiganmike
The 35% difference in maximum torque is large compared to a 6% weight difference.
Originally Posted by turboawd
your "calculator" ignores torque.
Originally Posted by D33ZNUT5
X2, you sound like a guy that thinks he knows everything but in reality you don't. This thread fails.
actually, torque and horsepower are inverse calculations of each other. torque is just a measurement of horsepower at a given rpm. so no, you do not need torque numbers in the tables i have posted to show the relative acceleration difference between the three models of the E60.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynometer

HP = (Torque * RPM) / 5252

Torque = (HP * 5252) / RPM
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Originally Posted by tuffluck
actually, torque and horsepower are inverse calculations of each other. torque is just a measurement of horsepower at a given rpm. so no, you do not need torque numbers in the tables i have posted to show the relative acceleration difference between the three models of the E60.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynometer

HP = (Torque * RPM) / 5252

Torque = (HP * 5252) / RPM
why do you persist?
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I would have happily raced any stock 530 in my stock 535 from any speed to any distance for any amount of money.

535 smokes the 530 and it's not even close.

My 535 0-60 was closer to 5 seconds than BMW would ever indicate. Every test done on the car shows the same... Hence 1000 threads about how 535s are nearly as fast as (some even faster than) 550s.

To sum up 535>530. Every. Day. Of. The. Week.

/ thread
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Originally Posted by e6t
I would have happily raced any stock 530 in my stock 535 from any speed to any distance for any amount of money.

535 smokes the 530 and it's not even close.

My 535 0-60 was closer to 5 seconds than BMW would ever indicate. Every test done on the car shows the same... Hence 1000 threads about how 535s are nearly as fast as (some even faster than) 550s.

To sum up 535>530. Every. Day. Of. The. Week.

/ thread
very happy you think so.

hey man it's not an argument, it's just weight vs power and statistics. maybe you have raced 2005 and previous 530i's with 30 less horsepower (btw, how would you know?), or maybe your car is a beast unlike other 535i's. your post isn't really indicative of anything helpful to the thread. =/


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