Playing MP3 and Navigation from DL DVD
06-11-2008, 09:32 AM
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I have been using a DVD to play my MP3s ( 4.3 GB of MP3 songs ) from my navigation DVD drive. The flip side is that I cant use the Navigation if Im playing MP3 from this drive. So I tried a stupid thing as I was very curious about it. I had an ISO image of navigation DVD. So I go a Dual Layer DVD ( 8.4 G
and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).
But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
06-11-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by manjunatht' post='600529' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:32 PM
I have been using a DVD to play my MP3s ( 4.3 GB of MP3 songs ) from my navigation DVD drive. The flip side is that I cant use the Navigation if Im playing MP3 from this drive. So I tried a stupid thing as I was very curious about it. I had an ISO image of navigation DVD. So I go a Dual Layer DVD ( 8.4 G and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).
But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
06-11-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by manjunatht' post='600529' date='Jun 11 2008, 11:32 AM
I have been using a DVD to play my MP3s ( 4.3 GB of MP3 songs ) from my navigation DVD drive. The flip side is that I cant use the Navigation if Im playing MP3 from this drive. So I tried a stupid thing as I was very curious about it. I had an ISO image of navigation DVD. So I go a Dual Layer DVD ( 8.4 G and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).
But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.
to the forums.......OMG that IS a good Idea, if you can make it work please let us know, as I am sure that will go over like hot cakes!!! 
I mean obviously the computer searches for the ISO file so why wouldnt it be able to search thru other files during the same process? Unless there is some sort of boot command, but then you would have had the problem on your copied DVD. 
Where's Rudy when we need him????
06-11-2008, 10:47 AM
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My E60 isn't turning up till Friday so I havn't got any experience with the Nav DVD, but one thing that might be worth checking is what LABEL is being written to the disc by the software your using. I don't know if the BMW Sat Nav's look for something in the disc label to determine if it's a Nav DVD or MP3 disc.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
06-11-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sp00ge' post='600583' date='Jun 11 2008, 02:47 PM
My E60 isn't turning up till Friday so I havn't got any experience with the Nav DVD, but one thing that might be worth checking is what LABEL is being written to the disc by the software your using. I don't know if the BMW Sat Nav's look for something in the disc label to determine if it's a Nav DVD or MP3 disc.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
the label for Navigation DVD "NAV_DB" and try burning ur new DVD using ImgBurn very fast and can detect all burning properties needed
For editing the image file MagicIso can edit and recompile it, after adding ur MP3's burn at once and close the session.
Ill try it my self .. thx mate
06-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sp00ge' post='600583' date='Jun 11 2008, 02:47 PM
My E60 isn't turning up till Friday so I havn't got any experience with the Nav DVD, but one thing that might be worth checking is what LABEL is being written to the disc by the software your using. I don't know if the BMW Sat Nav's look for something in the disc label to determine if it's a Nav DVD or MP3 disc.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
Also, how are you burning the disc ?
Are you extracting the files from the ISO image and combining them with your MP3's and then burning to disc ?
Or are you somehow writing the ISO first but not closing the session and then adding the MP3's ?
I havn't looked around but do the BMW Sat Nav drives support dual layer DVD's ?
If you were to dump 8GB of MP3's to a dual layer DVDR and see if they all get picked up and can play properly (Hard thing to test I know) then at least it proves it can read dual layers.
Hope something above helps.
Next thing I might try is to write the ISO first ( becuase it worked when I did it on a single layer DVD) and in the same session write the MP3s.
06-11-2008, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WsRamahi' post='600590' date='Jun 11 2008, 03:01 PM
OMG.. didnt think of this idea !! i was wondering how to combine them together so i can test both of them 2!!
the label for Navigation DVD "NAV_DB" and try burning ur new DVD using ImgBurn very fast and can detect all burning properties needed
For editing the image file MagicIso can edit and recompile it, after adding ur MP3's burn at once and close the session.
Ill try it my self .. thx mate
the label for Navigation DVD "NAV_DB" and try burning ur new DVD using ImgBurn very fast and can detect all burning properties needed
For editing the image file MagicIso can edit and recompile it, after adding ur MP3's burn at once and close the session.
Ill try it my self .. thx mate
06-11-2008, 02:32 PM
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All DVD drives have only one laser "head" that reads a track on a disc.
So if you have navi + mp3 files on a DL disc, the "head" will only be only be able to read a track at a time.
Also, not all drives can read DL disc (and not all burners can burn DL disc). So my best guess is the head on our cars are only capable of reading the 1st layer of a disc (L0).
So if you have navi + mp3 files on a DL disc, the "head" will only be only be able to read a track at a time.
Also, not all drives can read DL disc (and not all burners can burn DL disc). So my best guess is the head on our cars are only capable of reading the 1st layer of a disc (L0).
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My original NAV DVD was single layer - so it would be interesting to see if a dual layer DVD would work.
I always thought that when you copy a disk image you are essentially duplicating the entire disk structure, blank space and all.
So if you are adding files you are changing the image.
The file/folder structures for NAV and MP3 disks are different. I don't think you can just create a folder and copy MP3s like a normal computer disk.
Furthermore, I don't think you can just turn the NAV on if a DVD is already loaded. There may be some sort of boot sequence that is probably keyed whenever a DVD is loaded or when the car is started.
I always thought that when you copy a disk image you are essentially duplicating the entire disk structure, blank space and all.
So if you are adding files you are changing the image.
The file/folder structures for NAV and MP3 disks are different. I don't think you can just create a folder and copy MP3s like a normal computer disk.
Furthermore, I don't think you can just turn the NAV on if a DVD is already loaded. There may be some sort of boot sequence that is probably keyed whenever a DVD is loaded or when the car is started.
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Originally Posted by 545iBMW' post='600724' date='Jun 11 2008, 06:32 PM
All DVD drives have only one laser "head" that reads a track on a disc.
So if you have navi + mp3 files on a DL disc, the "head" will only be only be able to read a track at a time.
Also, not all drives can read DL disc (and not all burners can burn DL disc). So my best guess is the head on our cars are only capable of reading the 1st layer of a disc (L0).
So if you have navi + mp3 files on a DL disc, the "head" will only be only be able to read a track at a time.
Also, not all drives can read DL disc (and not all burners can burn DL disc). So my best guess is the head on our cars are only capable of reading the 1st layer of a disc (L0).