is it ok to use K&N Engine filter ?
02-04-2013, 03:24 PM
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The previous owner of my car had a K&N air filter.
I think he took the 1 million mile "guarantee" way too far!
I tossed that thing into the garbage and went back to a Mahle filter.
I have 100% confidence in the testing labs at BMW. If K&N was best, they would offer that "oil based, air filter technology" in their cars. But they don't.
I have almost ZERO confidence in my ability to "clean" an air filter, re-oil it, and then use it again.
It will NOT be as good as new, and will most certainly not outperform a brand new Mahle or Hengst or Mann air filter.
Working off of my garage floor to clean my K&N ari filter seems like a recipe for disaster. Then I must "oil it". Huh? With what? How do I evenly apply the oil across the cotton fabric so that it out performs a Mahle or Hengst filter out of the box?
I think he took the 1 million mile "guarantee" way too far!
I tossed that thing into the garbage and went back to a Mahle filter.
I have 100% confidence in the testing labs at BMW. If K&N was best, they would offer that "oil based, air filter technology" in their cars. But they don't.
I have almost ZERO confidence in my ability to "clean" an air filter, re-oil it, and then use it again.
It will NOT be as good as new, and will most certainly not outperform a brand new Mahle or Hengst or Mann air filter.
Working off of my garage floor to clean my K&N ari filter seems like a recipe for disaster. Then I must "oil it". Huh? With what? How do I evenly apply the oil across the cotton fabric so that it out performs a Mahle or Hengst filter out of the box?
02-04-2013, 03:32 PM
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hmmm I've never thought that K&N filter have to be "re-oil" after the clean-up. If it does require, then the MFG should have some kind of instruction how to "re-oil" the filter.
Anyone have anyt idea? Since I just order the part today and I will not use it if so many step have to go thru.
Anyone have anyt idea? Since I just order the part today and I will not use it if so many step have to go thru.
02-04-2013, 05:36 PM
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hmmm I've never thought that K&N filter have to be "re-oil" after the clean-up. If it does require, then the MFG should have some kind of instruction how to "re-oil" the filter.
Anyone have anyt idea? Since I just order the part today and I will not use it if so many step have to go thru.
Anyone have anyt idea? Since I just order the part today and I will not use it if so many step have to go thru.
02-04-2013, 10:25 PM
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It's not that difficult to do. Once you wash the filter you lightly coat the filter with oil. Everything you need is in their kit, K&N Air Filter Cleaning & Oiling Accessories. I use an AFE cleaning kit from my Lexus to clean my k&n and bms dci's currently.
Yup it's all in the kit. Cleaning solution and oil spray. You spray on the cleaning solution. Let it soak for a while, then rinse with cold water. Let it dry naturally (do NOT use artificial heat!). Once dry, spray the oil on the filter in an even coat. It's red so it will be easy to see the covered areas (and areas needing attention). After its coated you enjoy the ride. Been using mine for 170K miles, with cleaning/oiling every 25k or so. I also clean the MAF sensor with each oiling.
02-04-2013, 10:35 PM
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The previous owner of my car had a K&N air filter.
I think he took the 1 million mile "guarantee" way too far!
I tossed that thing into the garbage and went back to a Mahle filter.
I have 100% confidence in the testing labs at BMW. If K&N was best, they would offer that "oil based, air filter technology" in their cars. But they don't.
I have almost ZERO confidence in my ability to "clean" an air filter, re-oil it, and then use it again.
It will NOT be as good as new, and will most certainly not outperform a brand new Mahle or Hengst or Mann air filter.
Working off of my garage floor to clean my K&N ari filter seems like a recipe for disaster. Then I must "oil it". Huh? With what? How do I evenly apply the oil across the cotton fabric so that it out performs a Mahle or Hengst filter out of the box?
I think he took the 1 million mile "guarantee" way too far!
I tossed that thing into the garbage and went back to a Mahle filter.
I have 100% confidence in the testing labs at BMW. If K&N was best, they would offer that "oil based, air filter technology" in their cars. But they don't.
I have almost ZERO confidence in my ability to "clean" an air filter, re-oil it, and then use it again.
It will NOT be as good as new, and will most certainly not outperform a brand new Mahle or Hengst or Mann air filter.
Working off of my garage floor to clean my K&N ari filter seems like a recipe for disaster. Then I must "oil it". Huh? With what? How do I evenly apply the oil across the cotton fabric so that it out performs a Mahle or Hengst filter out of the box?
However, for the enthusiast who doesn't mind the work needed, the reward can be slightly increased horsepower and a filter that's always in stock...its on your car. But it must be done correctly and with care. Paper may be the best option if the level of care is of concern. As for dealer service, there was a bright K&N sticker put on the airbox to inform the service persons that a reusable filter was in place and not to be thrown away.
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02-04-2013, 11:12 PM
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02-05-2013, 05:25 AM
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02-05-2013, 05:34 AM
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The following is a professional test of Air Filters performed at a test lab.
SCOPE:
This report presents the results of an ISO 5011 test of several air filters designed for the GM Duramax Diesel. The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine).
Arlen Spicer, a GM Duramax Diesel owner/enthusiast organized the test. Testand offered to perform the tests at no charge. (These tests typically cost approx $1700.00 per filter). Ken (and employee of Testand), a Diesel enthusiast and owner of a Ford Power Stroke Diesel, shared Arlen’s interest in performing an accurate unbiased test of different types and brands of diesel engine air filters.
The filters used in the test were purchased retail and donated by Arlen and other individual Duramax Diesel owners. The detailed reports from the test have been compiled and are presented in the following pages. The final pages of this report present the behind the test.
Yes, K&N is less restrictive on air flow because it is more porous, and therefore, more dirt passes through the filter into the engine.
So you must be willing to trade-off more dirt for greater air flow. That's why I pitched my in the trash can.
Here's the link: K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
SCOPE:
This report presents the results of an ISO 5011 test of several air filters designed for the GM Duramax Diesel. The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine).
Arlen Spicer, a GM Duramax Diesel owner/enthusiast organized the test. Testand offered to perform the tests at no charge. (These tests typically cost approx $1700.00 per filter). Ken (and employee of Testand), a Diesel enthusiast and owner of a Ford Power Stroke Diesel, shared Arlen’s interest in performing an accurate unbiased test of different types and brands of diesel engine air filters.
The filters used in the test were purchased retail and donated by Arlen and other individual Duramax Diesel owners. The detailed reports from the test have been compiled and are presented in the following pages. The final pages of this report present the behind the test.
Yes, K&N is less restrictive on air flow because it is more porous, and therefore, more dirt passes through the filter into the engine.
So you must be willing to trade-off more dirt for greater air flow. That's why I pitched my in the trash can.
Here's the link: K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
02-05-2013, 07:37 AM
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Do I need to spray oil on the brand new K&N filter before install to the engine? or it already came pre-oil ?
02-05-2013, 08:07 AM
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The following is a professional test of Air Filters performed at a test lab.
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This report presents the results of an ISO 5011 test of several air filters designed for the GM Duramax Diesel. The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine).
Arlen Spicer, a GM Duramax Diesel owner/enthusiast organized the test. Testand offered to perform the tests at no charge. (These tests typically cost approx $1700.00 per filter). Ken (and employee of Testand), a Diesel enthusiast and owner of a Ford Power Stroke Diesel, shared Arlen’s interest in performing an accurate unbiased test of different types and brands of diesel engine air filters.
The filters used in the test were purchased retail and donated by Arlen and other individual Duramax Diesel owners. The detailed reports from the test have been compiled and are presented in the following pages. The final pages of this report present the behind the test.
Yes, K&N is less restrictive on air flow because it is more porous, and therefore, more dirt passes through the filter into the engine.
So you must be willing to trade-off more dirt for greater air flow. That's why I pitched my in the trash can.
Here's the link: K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
SCOPE:
This report presents the results of an ISO 5011 test of several air filters designed for the GM Duramax Diesel. The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine).
Arlen Spicer, a GM Duramax Diesel owner/enthusiast organized the test. Testand offered to perform the tests at no charge. (These tests typically cost approx $1700.00 per filter). Ken (and employee of Testand), a Diesel enthusiast and owner of a Ford Power Stroke Diesel, shared Arlen’s interest in performing an accurate unbiased test of different types and brands of diesel engine air filters.
The filters used in the test were purchased retail and donated by Arlen and other individual Duramax Diesel owners. The detailed reports from the test have been compiled and are presented in the following pages. The final pages of this report present the behind the test.
Yes, K&N is less restrictive on air flow because it is more porous, and therefore, more dirt passes through the filter into the engine.
So you must be willing to trade-off more dirt for greater air flow. That's why I pitched my in the trash can.
Here's the link: K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)
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