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Old 06-07-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='903641' date='Jun 7 2009, 08:43 PM
i um... would probably avoid welding anything on the oil pan. you could take another hex, slightly larger then strip, put a little locktite on there and hammer it in. wait a little while then unscrew it. i reccomend going to sears and getting a cheap hex bit/socket that you can attatch to a socket wrench. those L shaped Hex drivers are bad news and will get you anytime you are trying to unscrew something that it tight.
I used a good quality hex bit that was 8mm (correct size) it fit just a little loose which is what screwed me in the end. The more i think about it, I think it needs a torx bit. Can anyone agree or disagree? It just stripped out so easy it couldn't have been the right bit.
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a hex bit and a torx bit are two completely different things, you cant use one in the other. you would notice the star pattern or the hexigon pattern. cant mistake the two
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HEX




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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='903641' date='Jun 7 2009, 05:43 PM
i um... would probably avoid welding anything on the oil pan. you could take another hex, slightly larger then strip, put a little locktite on there and hammer it in. wait a little while then unscrew it. i reccomend going to sears and getting a cheap hex bit/socket that you can attatch to a socket wrench. those L shaped Hex drivers are bad news and will get you anytime you are trying to unscrew something that it tight.
I'm pretty sure he suggested welding or brazing to the drain plug screw and not the oil pan itself. Loctite isn't going to help at all. If I had to go with an adhesive, a two part epoxy is going to have much higher shear strength than loctite.
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Originally Posted by bmdub' post='903668' date='Jun 7 2009, 09:23 PM
I'm pretty sure he suggested welding or brazing to the drain plug screw and not the oil pan itself. Loctite isn't going to help at all. If I had to go with an adhesive, a two part epoxy is going to have much higher shear strength than loctite.
Motor Oil Ignites at approximately 500 degrees. A typical arc welder creates flames that are about 5600 degrees. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='903676' date='Jun 7 2009, 08:34 PM
Motor Oil Ignites at approximately 500 degrees. A typical arc welder creates flames that are about 5600 degrees. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out
you'd use a tig or mig welder, and you would just do many short bursts of weld. then the metal wont get that hot. use a wet rag to cool the bolt between welds. actually the oil will absorb the heat also.

also, the bolt should be a allen. they dont strip that easy, unless it was messed up from before.
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Originally Posted by turboawd' post='903774' date='Jun 7 2009, 11:13 PM
you'd use a tig or mig welder, and you would just do many short bursts of weld. then the metal wont get that hot. use a wet rag to cool the bolt between welds. actually the oil will absorb the heat also.

also, the bolt should be a allen. they dont strip that easy, unless it was messed up from before.
allen/hex will strip easy using one of these:

you always want to use one of these:

the second picture is for heavier jobs.

about the welding, i was just saying it was completely over-the-top and could pose a safety issue. just get a hex socket slightly bigger then the current stripped hole and hammer it in. use locktite, dont use locktite, use glue, dont use glue. doesnt matter actually, just pound it in there.

i am telling you this because I HAVE EXPERIENCE with this. i am not making up some stupid way of doing something. i am providing a VERY SIMPLE fix. just make sure you have the replacement drain plug.

EVEN if the welding idea is a good idea, how many people have a tig welder at home. come one people, lets excersise common sense when providing someone with an answer.
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='903790' date='Jun 7 2009, 11:27 PM
allen/hex will strip easy using one of these:

you always want to use one of these:

the second picture is for heavier jobs.

about the welding, i was just saying it was completely over-the-top and could pose a safety issue. just get a hex socket slightly bigger then the current stripped hole and hammer it in. use locktite, dont use locktite, use glue, dont use glue. doesnt matter actually, just pound it in there.

i am telling you this because I HAVE EXPERIENCE with this. i am not making up some stupid way of doing something. i am providing a VERY SIMPLE fix. just make sure you have the replacement drain plug.

EVEN if the welding idea is a good idea, how many people have a tig welder at home. come one people, lets excersise common sense when providing someone with an answer.
Definitely used the type in the second picture. Have no idea what happened, as soon as i started pulling hard it just stripped. I used an 8mm and my set has a 10mm as the next size up. I will try to buy a 9mm tomorrow and hammer away at it. Also will be visiting the dealer for a new plug.
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Give this guy a call and for $20 he'll come and do it with his vice-like fingers.

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nice. Should have called him first.


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