New 530d engine with 231 HP!

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09-22-2005, 12:34 AM

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I thought the smaller turbo spun up nice and early compared with the 530d? I would of thought that would of helped quite a bit? (In theory - perhaps the practice is different?)

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The first stage turbo spins up straight away and eliminates lag but doesn't give any more pull than the single turbo engine as the amount of torque available from 1,500rpm is the same. However where the 530d pull tails off at around 3,500rpm the 535's second stage turbo cuts in with the max torque/power available and gives superb pull right up to the redline. It provides petrol style driving! This is evident when you compare the auto 530d to the 535d in terms of 0-62 and 0-100mph. The difference up to 62 isn't much different 6.5 compared to 7.3 however 0 -100 is 15.0 compared to 19.4 (autocar figures).

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09-22-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Sep 22 2005, 03:32 AM

[quote name='colejl' date='Sep 22 2005, 01:58 AM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Sep 22 2005, 06:28 AM']hey btw what's the difference between the 2 E60 530d existing models? some have the tail pipes bent down and some have them straight...
i guess it's the aprticle filter but is there a difference in hp also(218/231)?
Thanx

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The 'old' engine (218PS) had two different exhaust systems. The straight ones have the filter and lower emissions and the bent ones did not... Same power but in some countries the tax can be lower depending on how it is calculated. In the UK I think it only affects company cars as there's a small discount for the EU4 compliance...

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So i suspect that the 231 engine comes only with straight exhausts...right?

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The bent tailpipes were fitted to all 2003/early2004 cars. In mid 2004 BMW sorted the filter so they could fit straight chrome versions to all.

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09-22-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Sep 22 2005, 07:28 AM

hey btw what's the difference between the 2 E60 530d existing models? some have the tail pipes bent down and some have them straight...
i guess it's the aprticle filter but is there a difference in hp also(218/231)?
Thanx

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Now since 2004 or 05 the diesels only come with strait double.
I have the same

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09-22-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv the Derv' date='Sep 22 2005, 09:34 AM

I thought the smaller turbo spun up nice and early compared with the 530d? I would of thought that would of helped quite a bit? (In theory - perhaps the practice is different?)

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I have the figures from the 231Hp engine right here for the touring.
It brings the touring from 0-62Mph in 6.9s not 7.3s , so the difference to the 535d is quite small.

GRTZ

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09-22-2005, 01:14 AM

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Seems like they need to upgrade the 535d as well, since the difference is getting smaller..

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09-22-2005, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by garehaan' date='Sep 22 2005, 09:14 AM

Seems like they need to upgrade the 535d as well, since the difference is getting smaller..

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Funny you should mention that...........

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09-22-2005, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv the Derv' date='Sep 22 2005, 08:34 AM

The first stage turbo spins up straight away and eliminates lag but doesn't give any more pull than the single turbo engine as the amount of torque available from 1,500rpm is the same. However where the 530d pull tails off at around 3,500rpm the 535's second stage turbo cuts in with the max torque/power available and gives superb pull right up to the redline. It provides petrol style driving! This is evident when you compare the auto 530d to the 535d in terms of 0-62 and 0-100mph. The difference up to 62 isn't much different 6.5 compared to 7.3 however 0 -100 is 15.0 compared to 19.4 (autocar figures).

I guess that makes sense... I rarely go about 3,500rpm anyway but that extra powerband would be nice

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09-22-2005, 10:21 AM

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My Ride: 2001 BMW 316ti, 2004 BMW 530d, 2006 BMW 530xd, 2013 BMW 320d touring, 2014 BMW 520d touring, 2016 BMW X5, 2020 BMW 320da touring, 2020 BMW 540i

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If possible i would get the 535d with manual gear box ....... cool....