Maunal transmission is awesome
12-06-2005, 11:26 AM
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Just got my car today and I have to say those germans can sure build a transmission. Best I've driven. Good clutch engagment. Right size throws. Good placement. My buddy had an S2000 and the throws were too short. I ahd a GM (with a Getrag transmission but second gear felt like it was in the back seat. Anyway, just one more reason why I love my car. And my wife can drive a stick and there is nothing sexier than a woman who can handle a stick. Wait - that doesn't sound right. 
12-06-2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dgjk' post='207771' date='Dec 5 2005, 09:10 PM
actually when I bought my oldsmobile with the manual transmission they said it was a getrag who also built transmissions for BMW. not sure if this is true.
anyone?anyone?bueller?
anyway - the transmissions are worlds apart
anyone?anyone?bueller?
anyway - the transmissions are worlds apart
The current generation E60 uses a ZF transmission setup.
The manual transmissions available on the 525i and 530i is the ZF Type-H 6spd manual transmission. The 545i has the ZF Type-G Manual, which is also a 6spd unit avaiable with the SMG feature. While the ZF Manual transmissions aren't bad, they aren't the best, which appears to be a cost saving measure. The M5 (I believe) gets the same Getrag Type-D series found on the E46 M3 SMG II.
The Automatic transmission available on all cars is the ZF 6 speed automatic unit, which is becomming the standard on almost all luxury vehicles.
The 545i 6spd needs an SSK ... still looking ...
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Yup - 540i = E39. In fact, the E39 M5 fitted with an ACS SSK and a lightweight flywheel shifts/engages like a hot knife through butter ...
12-06-2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit' post='207782' date='Dec 6 2005, 12:27 AM
[quote name='dgjk' post='207771' date='Dec 5 2005, 09:10 PM']
actually when I bought my oldsmobile with the manual transmission they said it was a getrag who also built transmissions for BMW. not sure if this is true.
anyone?anyone?bueller?
anyway - the transmissions are worlds apart
actually when I bought my oldsmobile with the manual transmission they said it was a getrag who also built transmissions for BMW. not sure if this is true.
anyone?anyone?bueller?
anyway - the transmissions are worlds apart
The current generation E60 uses a ZF transmission setup.
The manual transmissions available on the 525i and 530i is the ZF Type-H 6spd manual transmission. The 545i has the ZF Type-G Manual, which is also a 6spd unit avaiable with the SMG feature. While the ZF Manual transmissions aren't bad, they aren't the best, which appears to be a cost saving measure. The M5 (I believe) gets the same Getrag Type-D series found on the E46 M3 SMG II.
The Automatic transmission available on all cars is the ZF 6 speed automatic unit, which is becomming the standard on almost all luxury vehicles.
The 545i 6spd needs an SSK ... still looking ...
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Yup - 540i = E39. In fact, the E39 M5 fitted with an ACS SSK and a lightweight flywheel shifts/engages like a hot knife through butter ...
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That's what I thought. Thanks.
12-06-2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Hull' post='207900' date='Dec 6 2005, 08:56 AM
I'm not so sure why you think the E39 Getrag 6 speed was so great; they couldn't keep clutches in them. The Susan Koman caravan DROPPED the 6 spd for the 99 tour because of continually blown clutches the year before (my dealer had to replace one). Sure, the gears may have been fine, but if you can't get the power to the wheels, you have a major problem. At 100K, mine was beginning to slip in cold weather.
Since you say that the M5 now has this same ZF unit, I feel fairly confident that the torque problems of the powerplant on the clutch have been remedied. And I like the shifter feel of the E60. But I do wish there was a stiffer clutch pedal spring.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
Since you say that the M5 now has this same ZF unit, I feel fairly confident that the torque problems of the powerplant on the clutch have been remedied. And I like the shifter feel of the E60. But I do wish there was a stiffer clutch pedal spring.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
12-06-2005, 01:59 PM
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I'm not so sure why you think the E39 Getrag 6 speed was so great; they couldn't keep clutches in them. The Susan Koman caravan DROPPED the 6 spd for the 99 tour because of continually blown clutches the year before (my dealer had to replace one). Sure, the gears may have been fine, but if you can't get the power to the wheels, you have a major problem. At 100K, mine was beginning to slip in cold weather.
Since you say that the M5 now has this same ZF unit, I feel fairly confident that the torque problems of the powerplant on the clutch have been remedied. And I like the shifter feel of the E60. But I do wish there was a stiffer clutch pedal spring.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
Since you say that the M5 now has this same ZF unit, I feel fairly confident that the torque problems of the powerplant on the clutch have been remedied. And I like the shifter feel of the E60. But I do wish there was a stiffer clutch pedal spring.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
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Actually only the non-M E60s have the ZF tranny.
The E60 M5 uses a Getrage SMGIII setup.
12-06-2005, 02:00 PM
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My Ride: 2003 X5 3.0----->gone
2004 Porsche Cayenne S : Gemballa front and back bodykit, fabspeed bypass pipes, Gemballa exhaust pipes, full option, 20" factory sport design rims------>gone
2005 545i 6-spd manual---->de-badged, CDV removal, Autosolutions short shift kit, resonator removal, premium package, PDC, xenon, almost full options, hardwire V1 install ....looking for mods...
2007 550i 6-spd----> Premium package, sport package, Logic7, heated everything, Rogue Engineering SSK, CDV removal, hardwire V1 install, aFe cold air intake, Custom Magnaflow exhaust....
Now I FINALLY know why my 6-speed feels inferior when compared to my friend's E39 M5...too un-sporty...
well...short shift kit would cancel out the rubbery feeling...maybe I mihgt fit in a race clutch to improve pedal feel...will look into that once my clutch is done for
well...short shift kit would cancel out the rubbery feeling...maybe I mihgt fit in a race clutch to improve pedal feel...will look into that once my clutch is done for
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