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Originally Posted by Hormazd' post='441158' date='Jun 28 2007, 06:56 PM
The problem here is that we will have to wait until October when enough members have taken delivery of their US spec'd LCIs with L7, that had the pre LCI L7 before the board will agree that BMW have screwed up something (hopefully fixable through software). Perhaps the absense of the CD changer makes for a different package, with inferior components, but clearly all 13 speakers are there, with the same diameters. Lets keep this thread alive. The more I drive, the more un-happy I am with the sound system. As for SAT, what a waste of money. The sound is barely better than AM.
Hey Hormazd... are you going to the Malibu meet? I want to hear your LCI L7 sound system... How big of a difference is it...
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='441193' date='Jun 28 2007, 09:23 PM
Hey Hormazd... are you going to the Malibu meet? I want to hear your LCI L7 sound system... How big of a difference is it...
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' post='441199' date='Jun 29 2007, 06:38 AM
Ya know, I may just come down to share this problem. You pick the CD and lets play it in your car and then mine with the same settings. Get everyone to be the judge. It will be worth it.
guys... I don't need any poll... I got out from my old 530 and jumped in the LCI, switched on the HIFI immediately... " what the f**K is this?????" that was my reaction... and it's not a matter of source, I played original cds I know very well....
I REALLY REALLY hope is a matter of firmware and to be able to solve it with future updates... anyway I'll write to BMW about this issue
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Originally Posted by Rutto' post='441761' date='Jun 30 2007, 02:23 AM
guys... I don't need any poll... I got out from my old 530 and jumped in the LCI, switched on the HIFI immediately... " what the f**K is this?????" that was my reaction... and it's not a matter of source, I played original cds I know very well....
I REALLY REALLY hope is a matter of firmware and to be able to solve it with future updates... anyway I'll write to BMW about this issue
I REALLY REALLY hope is a matter of firmware and to be able to solve it with future updates... anyway I'll write to BMW about this issue
I agree with you and hope it is firmware that will be fixed. Since only 3 people are complaining it is important to get the word out. The board is read. More sets of ears will only validate that the problem exists. Maybe they are already aware of the problem and working on a fix. But you and I cannot be sure if its inferior hardware, which would be intentional on BMWs part or just the CIP version that our cars were delivered with. I had the latest CIP 25 with the graphics etc on my 545 before retiring it. I hope this is just a slightly different CIP.
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It sounds like the new speakers are cheaper and inferior to the Pre-LCI L7. I cannot understand how BMW can slide into sloppiness. Hopefully they are not taking us loyal BMW enthusiasts for granted. The black auto tranny filler panel looks like sh1t. Now they substitute an inferior and expensive Logic 7 system in the LCI. Maybe sales are too good and complacency is setting in. Maybe they are moving away from their German heritage and assuming an American, accountant driven approach.
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' post='441199' date='Jun 28 2007, 09:38 PM
Ya know, I may just come down to share this problem. You pick the CD and lets play it in your car and then mine with the same settings. Get everyone to be the judge. It will be worth it.
Ya... you should. Now I need to figure out when the meet is hahaha
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='441839' date='Jun 30 2007, 11:53 AM
Ya... you should. Now I need to figure out when the meet is hahaha
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I would suggest that if you are really going to test the quality of an audio system that you do it with commercially pressed CD's. By commercial CD's I specifically mean Red Book standard 44.1k 16 bit CD's. That way you are not listening to an inferior source such as an Ipod playing lossy compressed files or satellite radio or lossy compressed MP3's--all of which are provide lower sound quality than CD's. Ideally I would suggest doing at least some of the sonic testing with well-recorded CD's of acoustic instruments.
In the audiophile world it is well-known that a system can never sound better than the quality of the source which goes into it. And as is well known in high end audio--a higher quality system will be more revealing of the flaws of lower quality lossy compressed audio.
The above are simply general comments. I have not yet A-B'ed the pre-LCI and LCI Logic 7.
In the audiophile world it is well-known that a system can never sound better than the quality of the source which goes into it. And as is well known in high end audio--a higher quality system will be more revealing of the flaws of lower quality lossy compressed audio.
The above are simply general comments. I have not yet A-B'ed the pre-LCI and LCI Logic 7.
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Originally Posted by F10' post='442285' date='Jul 1 2007, 03:13 PM
I would suggest that if you are really going to test the quality of an audio system that you do it with commercially pressed CD's. By commercial CD's I specifically mean Red Book standard 44.1k 16 bit CD's. That way you are not listening to an inferior source such as an Ipod playing lossy compressed files or satellite radio or lossy compressed MP3's--all of which are provide lower sound quality than CD's. Ideally I would suggest doing at least some of the sonic testing with well-recorded CD's of acoustic instruments.
In the audiophile world it is well-known that a system can never sound better than the quality of the source which goes into it. And as is well known in high end audio--a higher quality system will be more revealing of the flaws of lower quality lossy compressed audio.
The above are simply general comments. I have not yet A-B'ed the pre-LCI and LCI Logic 7.
In the audiophile world it is well-known that a system can never sound better than the quality of the source which goes into it. And as is well known in high end audio--a higher quality system will be more revealing of the flaws of lower quality lossy compressed audio.
The above are simply general comments. I have not yet A-B'ed the pre-LCI and LCI Logic 7.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='442289' date='Jul 2 2007, 12:41 AM
It's perfectly possible to play uncompressed audio using an iPod - which also happens to have pretty good onboard DAC's and line out.
Here the point is: pre-LCI Logic 7 was ok, LCI Logic 7 sucks!