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Right. Latest update.
I've spoken to an independent garage in London and have the car booked in for 4th December. Before that, I was advised any retrofits you want to get on there, get them on before bringing the car in.
So, I'm going all out and getting the following fitted before I go in.
-CCC (already in)
-2008 M Sport Leather seats (already in)
-2007 Adaptive Bi-xenon lights (to buy)
-Adaptive + HUD LCM (already bought)
-2007 LED rear lights (to buy)
-M Sport steering wheel (already bought)
-M5 wing mirrors with puddle lighting and fold in function (to buy)
-New style Gearshift (See pic)
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The M5 mirrors and adaptive lights are the interesting ones. Wonder if they'll cause issue. Shouldn't if programmed.
Originally I had heated velour seats, but no heat on sports seats. But the switches and buttons are already in place cause I used the seat wiring loom from my old seats. So have seen another member use Waeco heated element pack, but using the packaged switches. I was wondering if anyone can help me decipher the switches in the loom and whether I can use the wiring from them on the Waeco pads.
If people with some knowledge can hhelp me here I will put up a DIY of how to retrofit the heat element on sports seats and use original switchgear and plugs.
One thing in my favour, I hope, is I've noticed there is a lot of stuff that fits pre 09/2005 and post 09/2005. My car was registered on 30/09/2005. Pretty much October. So I'm hoping it's got all the LCI style plugs and fittings etc. Any idea if this could be the case.
Also, am I going towards a dead end with the gear shifter, as the actual gear transmision is the same on RealOEM. Just the module and gear shifter are different from the top side.
Then I should be ready for the programming.
I've spoken to an independent garage in London and have the car booked in for 4th December. Before that, I was advised any retrofits you want to get on there, get them on before bringing the car in.
So, I'm going all out and getting the following fitted before I go in.
-CCC (already in)
-2008 M Sport Leather seats (already in)
-2007 Adaptive Bi-xenon lights (to buy)
-Adaptive + HUD LCM (already bought)
-2007 LED rear lights (to buy)
-M Sport steering wheel (already bought)
-M5 wing mirrors with puddle lighting and fold in function (to buy)
-New style Gearshift (See pic)
![I went in for a software update, came out with a 10 page report of iss-e60_gear_shifter.jpg](https://5series.net/forums/attachments/e60-discussion-2/94658d1482366208t-i-went-software-update-came-out-10-page-report-iss-e60_gear_shifter.jpg)
The M5 mirrors and adaptive lights are the interesting ones. Wonder if they'll cause issue. Shouldn't if programmed.
Originally I had heated velour seats, but no heat on sports seats. But the switches and buttons are already in place cause I used the seat wiring loom from my old seats. So have seen another member use Waeco heated element pack, but using the packaged switches. I was wondering if anyone can help me decipher the switches in the loom and whether I can use the wiring from them on the Waeco pads.
If people with some knowledge can hhelp me here I will put up a DIY of how to retrofit the heat element on sports seats and use original switchgear and plugs.
One thing in my favour, I hope, is I've noticed there is a lot of stuff that fits pre 09/2005 and post 09/2005. My car was registered on 30/09/2005. Pretty much October. So I'm hoping it's got all the LCI style plugs and fittings etc. Any idea if this could be the case.
Also, am I going towards a dead end with the gear shifter, as the actual gear transmision is the same on RealOEM. Just the module and gear shifter are different from the top side.
Then I should be ready for the programming.
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The problem with most (if not all) switches on the BMW car are actually just CAN ID generators. i.e. They simply put a message on the CAN BUS for the modules connected to the CAN BUS to pick up and interpret. I have built an experimental unit for myself that can pick up any button and convert that to actual On-Off button presses. I built this originally just for fun to get the gears to shift on a friends car with the Up Down arrows of the steering wheel. But now I have made it into a device that I can programme to read any button presses. I made this also to retrofit my M5 mirrors without having to programme the car. Why am I telling you all this? The reason being the short answer to your heated seats question is NO, you won't be easily able to use a BMW button panel to work with an after market heating pad.
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Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='1059794' date='Nov 21 2009, 08:42 PM
The problem with most (if not all) switches on the BMW car are actually just CAN ID generators. i.e. They simply put a message on the CAN BUS for the modules connected to the CAN BUS to pick up and interpret. I have built an experimental unit for myself that can pick up any button and convert that to actual On-Off button presses. I built this originally just for fun to get the gears to shift on a friends car with the Up Down arrows of the steering wheel. But now I have made it into a device that I can programme to read any button presses. I made this also to retrofit my M5 mirrors without having to programme the car. Why am I telling you all this? The reason being the short answer to your heated seats question is NO, you won't be easily able to use a BMW button panel to work with an after market heating pad.
I may not be making sense, so just stabbing in the dark.
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I think you've misunderstood or I may have misunderstood what you are trying to do here. The heated pad switch is a traditional On-Off switch which simply supplies 12V when On. If you can get the OEM buttons programmed so that they supply a 12V to the heated pad then there should be no problem integrating the heated pad with the OEM switch. I thought you wanted to simply replace the heated pad's switch with the OEM switch and that won't happen.
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abbizle i cannot wait for your monstrosity to be completed bwwwoooo hahahaaa!
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Originally Posted by skelevirus' post='1060099' date='Nov 22 2009, 10:34 AM
abbizle i cannot wait for your monstrosity to be completed bwwwoooo hahahaaa!
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With the E60 being half car, half computer, I'm half expecting, when I put all this stuff on, the car to come up with an error message saying "Too many changes to compute, this car will self distruct in 90 seconds!"
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Call to competitor dealers in the area and tell this story. They may want to be the good guys who help you out. Mention you are on a forum and got this advice too and they may see an opp to get more business by helping one of the forum family.
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Originally Posted by Abbizle' post='1060098' date='Nov 22 2009, 10:31 AM
Any idea how many Volts the OEM buttons are sending to the OEM pads?
I've looked at this is some more detail and I think you might actually be able to retrofit the rear seats heating pads to the front seats a lot easier. The rear seat pads have their own thermostats built into them and just require the rear seat switches to work them. Just another option for you.