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Old 09-01-2006, 06:28 AM
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I have been writing all the way about the facelift occuring not before the fall next year.

I have been wrong, the facelifted E60 with all the new engines will be introduced next spring!
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Next Spring! You mean as in March 2007 production cars?
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='329587' date='Sep 1 2006, 09:28 AM
I have been writing all the way about the facelift occuring not before the fall next year.

I have been wrong, the facelifted E60 with all the new engines will be introduced next spring!

I understand the new turbo engines but what kind of facelift are we talking about? Will the E60 only be a 4 year model run??? 04,05,06,07? Seems strange. Are we just talking some minor tweaks?
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REALLY ??


what have i been telling you for the past 4 months ... ive seen the product announcement and development documents already
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='329611' date='Sep 1 2006, 06:20 PM
REALLY ??
what have i been telling you for the past 4 months ... ive seen the product announcement and development documents already
Am I surprised, dear 700700...

Please, be constructive.
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Originally Posted by Veight' post='329607' date='Sep 1 2006, 09:09 AM
I understand the new turbo engines but what kind of facelift are we talking about? Will the E60 only be a 4 year model run??? 04,05,06,07? Seems strange. Are we just talking some minor tweaks?
No, he is referring to the mid-life facelift - like the 7 series' recent one.

Except for the availability of the twin turbo 535, it seems like the changes are pretty minor.

Can anyone tell me if there are more substantive changes that actually might be worth upgrading to?
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Originally Posted by LowOrbit' post='329614' date='Sep 1 2006, 11:35 AM
No, he is referring to the mid-life facelift - like the 7 series' recent one.

Except for the availability of the twin turbo 535, it seems like the changes are pretty minor.

Can anyone tell me if there are more substantive changes that actually might be worth upgrading to?
Are they going to bump up power for 550? It is now trailing Lexus and MB by 20+ bhp. They also need to have at least some power gap between 535 and 550.
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Originally Posted by SergeyM' post='329616' date='Sep 1 2006, 11:42 AM
Are they going to bump up power for 550? It is now trailing Lexus and MB by 20+ bhp. They also need to have at least some power gap between 535 and 550.

Quite possibly. I think there is an expected power increase to the 3L I6 as well.
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Originally Posted by SergeyM' post='329616' date='Sep 1 2006, 10:42 AM
Are they going to bump up power for 550? It is now trailing Lexus and MB by 20+ bhp. They also need to have at least some power gap between 535 and 550.
The 570 is due, however the engine extends above the hood for that sporty look.
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Originally Posted by SergeyM' post='329616' date='Sep 1 2006, 09:42 AM
Are they going to bump up power for 550? It is now trailing Lexus and MB by 20+ bhp. They also need to have at least some power gap between 535 and 550.
Based on published figures, 300bhp from the 535. The 535 was meant to address the power gap between 550i and 530i.

However, based on a previous thread, they dyno tested a 335i and it seems that it is really putting out more like 350bhp and one U.S. magazine got 4.9 sec 0-60 (range of 4.9-5.1) so in a 535, I would assume about 5.3 given the extra weight, and probably sub-5.0 if you chip it. So in stock form, the 535 is the new 545!

I would assume that they may twin-turbo the 550i at some point - but when is a mystery. Anyone able to shed light on the 550's development?


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