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Old 12-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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My daughter is due this coming March 12th. I will be very sad indeed if her first car, 16 years from now, isn't a manual transmission. I know it's very unlikely that it will be, but even though I don't drive a stick (traffic in Dubai is just too horrid IMO), I really value the many years I've had with it, and the respect it teaches you for the car.

You're just more involved.

Hell, I've already got her practicing...
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Manual all the way.. get involved!!

Most cars in the UK are Manual, Autos are generally seen as the lazy "businessman" option
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Originally Posted by ADD' post='755504' date='Dec 29 2008, 06:54 PM
Perfect description.

I couldn't care less about 0-60 times. The fact is that I can still smoke most things you'll meet at a stoplight.

Actually, I really don't care about top end either.

It's all about the twisties and hitting the perfect double clutch or heel toe in a corner and enjoying every second of it.
I get the heel and toe, but why would you be double clutching with a transmission that's already fully synchronized?
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='755850' date='Dec 30 2008, 11:30 AM
I get the heel and toe, but why would you be double clutching with a transmission that's already fully synchronized?
2x clutching is to allow you to match the revs when you downshift, a little throttle blip in neutral to increase the revs to the revs you anticipate the car reaching when you downshift.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='755850' date='Dec 30 2008, 11:30 AM
I get the heel and toe, but why would you be double clutching with a transmission that's already fully synchronized?

Actually, for me, it's not a heel toe downshift, it's more like a "ball/edge" downshift. The pedals in the e60 are close enough together so that I can push the brake with the left side ball of my right foot and roll over so that the right edge of my foot can blip the throttle.
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Originally Posted by ADD' post='755914' date='Dec 30 2008, 07:15 PM
Actually, for me, it's not a heel toe downshift, it's more like a "ball/edge" downshift. The pedals in the e60 are close enough together so that I can push the brake with the left side ball of my right foot and roll over so that the right edge of my foot can blip the throttle.
Prefer left-foot braking myself.
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I'm a Finn living in Germany and since I've always loathed automatics (useless on the Autobahn and useless in the city, since the computer can never predict what _I_ want) I wanted mine with 6MT (it's a 530d). Everyone seems to want theirs with an auto box though and since I bought mine 2nd hand (and the car having stood for 6 months at BMW) I got it at a very decent price indeed. To me automatics lack involvement and BMW is all about involvement, right?
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Originally Posted by mja' post='755935' date='Dec 30 2008, 08:23 PM
the computer can never predict what _I_ want)
That's what the Manual mode is for. You can change the gears yourself when you want a more involved drive. I do this about 50% of my driving. Driving around town with traffic lights turns I'm usually in DS (sport mode) and in traffic jams I'm usually in D. When it's not in-town then I'm in Manual mode.
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='755937' date='Dec 30 2008, 02:27 PM
That's what the Manual mode is for. You can change the gears yourself when you want a more involved drive. I do this about 50% of my driving. Driving around town with traffic lights turns I'm usually in DS (sport mode) and in traffic jams I'm usually in D. When it's not in-town then I'm in Manual mode.
But DS mode is not real manual mode as it wont allow you to do certain things and will shift for you
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='755937' date='Dec 30 2008, 08:27 PM
That's what the Manual mode is for. You can change the gears yourself when you want a more involved drive. I do this about 50% of my driving. Driving around town with traffic lights turns I'm usually in DS (sport mode) and in traffic jams I'm usually in D. When it's not in-town then I'm in Manual mode.
I know I should stop now, but I can't resist it
Isn't what you describe just a manually operated torque converter? A torque converter loses power/fuel, doesn't it, so why not go for a _true_ manual ?-)

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