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Old 06-02-2010, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Small Tomato
That could be wet road is the one to blame. I'd suggest you upgrade the tyres before next power/handling upgrade. Those upgrades will put heavier work load on the tyres. You will need Bridgestone RE050A / Michelin PS2 class of tyres if you prefer spirited driving.

Agreed. You need to improve grip if you are modifying the handling. No matter how strong your legs are, if you dont have the right shoes then you are never gonna run as fast!

Thats why I am of the opinion to modify suspension and wheels/tyres before im proving with sway bars or strut bars etc....
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Originally Posted by ricky1329
Capt 16".
I wonder why Alan and Keith also lost the grip after installed these 3 bars. Characteristic or side effect ?
I am ok, the grip level is about the same on mine. But the whole car feels more solid and more direct.
Tyres and weather are the one to blame, and i think if you can do the same speed at the same corner but in wet,
does it tell it actually gain more grip rather than lost?
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Originally Posted by ricky1329
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I wonder why Alan and Keith also lost the grip after installed these 3 bars. Characteristic or side effect ?
you should ask the pro that go on trackdays
I am guessing the Chassis is much more solid and stuffer and that why it is much easier to do power slides, just like M3 and M5.
I get it on my car too if I push it hard in wet
what we need is better tires for me wider 1s too 275, not the cheap 1s that don't grip in wet if I what it to go even faster.
Now the setup for the speed I am doing is very good.
also dont forget they both did the run in wet not dry.
I think your car will side if you push it hard in wet
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Originally Posted by keith84_uk
I am ok, the grip level is about the same on mine. But the whole car feels more solid and more direct.
Tyres and weather are the one to blame, and i think if you can do the same speed at the same corner but in wet,
does it tell it actually gain more grip rather than lost?
well said
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Originally Posted by mark_hk
Agreed. You need to improve grip if you are modifying the handling. No matter how strong your legs are, if you dont have the right shoes then you are never gonna run as fast!

Thats why I am of the opinion to modify suspension and wheels/tyres before im proving with sway bars or strut bars etc....
+1

stiffen chassis requires better tyres to work together
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Originally Posted by keith84_uk
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stiffen chassis requires better tyres to work together
Its a whole package. Cant just change one or two things to expect huge difference... unless its wider tyres and suspension!

Just ordered new spacers for my rims. Ricky, you think 10mm spacer is OK? or should i go smaller?
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Originally Posted by mark_hk
Its a whole package. Cant just change one or two things to expect huge difference... unless its wider tyres and suspension!

Just ordered new spacers for my rims. Ricky, you think 10mm spacer is OK? or should i go smaller?
10 mm is thin enough, but most important must with hub ring, otherwise will vibrate.
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Originally Posted by pinguhk
you should ask the pro that go on trackdays
I am guessing the Chassis is much more solid and stuffer and that why it is much easier to do power slides, just like M3 and M5.
I get it on my car too if I push it hard in wet
what we need is better tires for me wider 1s too 275, not the cheap 1s that don't grip in wet if I what it to go even faster.
Now the setup for the speed I am doing is very good.
also dont forget they both did the run in wet not dry.
I think your car will side if you push it hard in wet
That's why I never try. Mine set and my tires also not ready.
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Originally Posted by keith84_uk
+1

stiffen chassis requires better tyres to work together
do you think your DZ101 are OK?
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Originally Posted by pinguhk
do you think your DZ101 are OK?
I think they are okay since they are wide enough ... for the 3.0 engine's power to break it's limit. 245 & 275 setup is pretty like rail in corners. The only exception is the driver gone crazy and didn't brake but full throttle into every single corner.


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