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Old 03-29-2011, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dezenuts
what do you mean 'recharge'? and why don't you put in the orange paper filter in instead of the charcoal filter?
Well you have to clean the K&N air filter and re oil it. Excess oil can coat the MAS and break it.
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so let me get this straight you just complete took out the air filter and did not replace it with anything and left the box empty?
no dude i think you're getting it wrong. There is an orange paper filter (dont take this out unless you upgrade with another filter)and there is a black/grey charcoal filter attached to the cover of the airbox (take out that POS)
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Originally Posted by e60oholic
Well you have to clean the K&N air filter and re oil it. Excess oil can coat the MAS and break it.
hmm I'm thinking about getting one. how much? and do you feel your car breathing easier??
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Originally Posted by GsQ
so let me get this straight you just complete took out the air filter and did not replace it with anything and left the box empty?
Theres a secondary filter that clips into the airbox cover you can remove it by using a screwdriver to wedge it out. The regular orange paper filter or aftermarket remains in the airbox.
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I've gone back and forth on doing this mod many times, but never did it. I've gotta say, if it doesn't do anything, why bother? What's the charcoal filter for anyway?
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Originally Posted by dezenuts
no dude i think you're getting it wrong. There is an orange paper filter (dont take this out unless you upgrade with another filter)and there is a black/grey charcoal filter attached to the cover of the airbox (take out that POS)

Ok i see what you are saying. Ok im with you, ill take it out so long as you tell me why and what it will do for me.
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As I remember- the charcoal filter is there to capture any free fuel mixture evaporating FROM the engine AFTER the car is turned off. So it's really an emmissions over-regulation to protect potential mistakes made by the computer/fuel injection during the shutdown procedure. The European market doesn't require this protection so they wisely omit it from the design.

I could be wrong but that's what I seem to remember when I asked 5 years ago when I got the car.
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Originally Posted by TAJARO
As I remember- the charcoal filter is there to capture any free fuel mixture evaporating FROM the engine AFTER the car is turned off. So it's really an emmissions over-regulation to protect potential mistakes made by the computer/fuel injection during the shutdown procedure. The European market doesn't require this protection so they wisely omit it from the design.

I could be wrong but that's what I seem to remember when I asked 5 years ago when I got the car.
In this case - and since there is really no verifiable data to show it improves performance - I think I'll keep mine in.

I'm sure plenty of young'uns here will say "what's the difference", but I'd rather keep it in, and keep as many harmful chemicals out of the environment, as I can.
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There is definately a difference. I pulled mine approx 25k miles ago and havnt looked back. No error messages or issues at all. I noticed an immediate gain in throttle response, growl, and a tad more upper rpm pull. It makes since, you are eliminated something that is restricting airflow to your engine.
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Originally Posted by v_therussian
In this case - and since there is really no verifiable data to show it improves performance - I think I'll keep mine in.

I'm sure plenty of young'uns here will say "what's the difference", but I'd rather keep it in, and keep as many harmful chemicals out of the environment, as I can.

I believe TAJARO is correct. A friend of mine is a BMW tech and I asked him about this mod... he verified that it is the quickest way to gain a little power and response but stressed it may be small. He recommended a cold air intake and this combined. I asked him about error msgs, and he said that every now and then someone gets a MAF sensor issue but its nothing steady.


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