help im lost vanos solenoid
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My Ride: 2009 535i xdrive
help im lost vanos solenoid
help me please i was getting engine malfunction reduced power, on a cold startup rough idle. i took it to the dealer ship hassel bmw in Freeport long island they told me i needed new vanos solenoids i changed both intake and exhaust the car felt great for about 15 mins i step on the gas and here we go again reduced power pops up again . all i wanna do is to be able to step on the gas pedal as hard as i want again. by the way i saved 400$ changing myself and it only took about 30 mins to diy.
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I had a Vanos error on my wife's 2009 X5 (N52 engine). Did some surfing and found this. Also see the attached PDF, it has some pictures.
Not saying this is your problem, but could be. For her car, I swapped the intake and exhaust Vanos solenoids and did an engine oil change. It hasn't returned, but I'm seriously hoping it isn't the intake bearing ledge, which requires a new head.
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SI B11 02 08
Engine October 2010
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B11 02 08 dated August 2010.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Power Reduction, FC 2A82 Intake VANOS and/or FC 2A87 Exhaust VANOS Camshaft Faults are Stored in DME
MODEL
E82 and E88 (1 Series) with N51, N52K and N54 engines produced from 1/2008
E90 and E91 (3 Series) with N52 engine produced from 3/2005 through 6/2006
E90, E91, E92 and E93 (3 Series) with N51, N52K and N54 engines produced from 7/2006
E85 and E86 (Z4) with N52 engine produced from 1/2006
E83 (X3) with N52K engine produced from 9/2006
E60 and E61 (5 Series) with N52, N52K and N54 engines produced from 3/2005
E70 (X5) with N52K engine produced from 10/2006
E71 (X6) with N54 engine produced from 1/2008
SITUATION
The “Service Engine Soon” (MIL) lamp is illuminated and a power reduction is clearly perceptible. This situation can occur after driving for some time with the engine already at full operating temperature. If the ignition is cycled, the engine then usually performs normally.
The following faults are stored in the DME:
2A82 VANOS intake – stiff; jammed mechanically
2A87 VANOS exhaust – stiff; jammed mechanically
3100 Boost-pressure control, deactivation – boost-pressure buildup prohibited (N54 only)
CAUSE
The VANOS faults can be caused by an insufficient oil pressure supply to the inlet VANOS adjustment unit. To effectively move the camshafts to the target positions in the specified time and under all engine conditions, sufficient oil pressure supply to the VANOS control pistons must always be available. When the engine operation requires that the VANOS quickly advance or retard the intake or exhaust camshaft, fault 2A82 or 2A87 may be set if the camshaft is “late”, or does not reach the target position. In this situation, engine power may be reduced and a check control message is displayed. The consequential fault 3100 can also be set in the DME fault memory as well.
PROCEDURE
Perform all applicable test plans for the faults stored. A mechanical restriction or electrical failure of the VANOS solenoid and/or the electrical circuit can cause insufficient oil supply to the VANOS assemblies as well. If the results of the test plans are inconclusive then proceed to step 2.
The oil filter cap insert may have been inadvertently removed during the vehicle’s last oil service. If this insert is not installed, it will result in non-filtered engine oil being supplied to the engine, thus possibly clogging or damaging the VANOS solenoids.
Replace both VANOS solenoids and change the engine oil and filter. Drive the vehicle to verify effectiveness. If this repair is inconclusive and the fault returns, continue to step 4.
If the oil filter cap is found intact, it is possible that the camshaft hook ring seals (3) have worn a groove into the camshaft bearing ledge (1), causing a drop in oil supply to the VANOS unit.
Camshaft bearing ledge
Intake camshaft
Hook ring seals
Note the deep grooves worn into the intake camshaft bearing ledge by the camshaft hook ring seals.
Acceptable camshaft bearing ledge – minor wear marks from the rotation of the camshaft are normal.
If the oil filter cap insert is found to be missing, then the entire oil filter housing cap must be replaced (refer to the EPC). If excessive wear to the camshaft bearing ledge is found, it is only necessary to replace the camshaft hook ring seals and the affected camshaft bearing ledge.
Not saying this is your problem, but could be. For her car, I swapped the intake and exhaust Vanos solenoids and did an engine oil change. It hasn't returned, but I'm seriously hoping it isn't the intake bearing ledge, which requires a new head.
----
SI B11 02 08
Engine October 2010
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B11 02 08 dated August 2010.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Power Reduction, FC 2A82 Intake VANOS and/or FC 2A87 Exhaust VANOS Camshaft Faults are Stored in DME
MODEL
E82 and E88 (1 Series) with N51, N52K and N54 engines produced from 1/2008
E90 and E91 (3 Series) with N52 engine produced from 3/2005 through 6/2006
E90, E91, E92 and E93 (3 Series) with N51, N52K and N54 engines produced from 7/2006
E85 and E86 (Z4) with N52 engine produced from 1/2006
E83 (X3) with N52K engine produced from 9/2006
E60 and E61 (5 Series) with N52, N52K and N54 engines produced from 3/2005
E70 (X5) with N52K engine produced from 10/2006
E71 (X6) with N54 engine produced from 1/2008
SITUATION
The “Service Engine Soon” (MIL) lamp is illuminated and a power reduction is clearly perceptible. This situation can occur after driving for some time with the engine already at full operating temperature. If the ignition is cycled, the engine then usually performs normally.
The following faults are stored in the DME:
2A82 VANOS intake – stiff; jammed mechanically
2A87 VANOS exhaust – stiff; jammed mechanically
3100 Boost-pressure control, deactivation – boost-pressure buildup prohibited (N54 only)
CAUSE
The VANOS faults can be caused by an insufficient oil pressure supply to the inlet VANOS adjustment unit. To effectively move the camshafts to the target positions in the specified time and under all engine conditions, sufficient oil pressure supply to the VANOS control pistons must always be available. When the engine operation requires that the VANOS quickly advance or retard the intake or exhaust camshaft, fault 2A82 or 2A87 may be set if the camshaft is “late”, or does not reach the target position. In this situation, engine power may be reduced and a check control message is displayed. The consequential fault 3100 can also be set in the DME fault memory as well.
PROCEDURE
Perform all applicable test plans for the faults stored. A mechanical restriction or electrical failure of the VANOS solenoid and/or the electrical circuit can cause insufficient oil supply to the VANOS assemblies as well. If the results of the test plans are inconclusive then proceed to step 2.
The oil filter cap insert may have been inadvertently removed during the vehicle’s last oil service. If this insert is not installed, it will result in non-filtered engine oil being supplied to the engine, thus possibly clogging or damaging the VANOS solenoids.
Replace both VANOS solenoids and change the engine oil and filter. Drive the vehicle to verify effectiveness. If this repair is inconclusive and the fault returns, continue to step 4.
If the oil filter cap is found intact, it is possible that the camshaft hook ring seals (3) have worn a groove into the camshaft bearing ledge (1), causing a drop in oil supply to the VANOS unit.
Camshaft bearing ledge
Intake camshaft
Hook ring seals
Note the deep grooves worn into the intake camshaft bearing ledge by the camshaft hook ring seals.
Acceptable camshaft bearing ledge – minor wear marks from the rotation of the camshaft are normal.
If the oil filter cap insert is found to be missing, then the entire oil filter housing cap must be replaced (refer to the EPC). If excessive wear to the camshaft bearing ledge is found, it is only necessary to replace the camshaft hook ring seals and the affected camshaft bearing ledge.
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