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View Poll Results: Is your brake pedal hard when you press it to start the car in the Morning?
Yes. There is not much travel distance when I press it for startup
45.10%
No. It's like normal braking
29.41%
Sometimes
25.49%
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Hard brake pedal at start up

Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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The problem is that the brake pedal gets hard on startup after long hours (overnight or more) of parking.

Just want a poll to see how common it is.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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yeah it happens sometimes but after it starts it seems to soften up.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Participations are appreciated.

Just keep in mind to check brake pedal feel tomorrow Morning startup.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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for me, engine off=hard brake pedal all the time until start up. as the engine starts and my foot is still on the brake, the pedal eases up and softens to normal feel.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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I am surprised to see the high percentage (so far) of the problem.

I wonder whether it's a design flaw, quality control issue or manufacturing issue.

Brake booster is a very matured technology.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Glad I drive a manual...
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Have the same problem but never thought anything of it because it softens after start up.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='505696' date='Dec 11 2007, 04:51 PM
Glad I drive a manual...
I don't think it has anything to do with transmission. Actually it's worse for manual cars (imagine you are on hills when you start and brake pedal is hard)
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Hi

The way to check the proper function of the brake servo is to place your foot on the footbrake pedal with engine off. When you start the vehilce the servo will operate and the brake pedal will soften slightly.This is absolutely normal and I would be concerned if this did not happen in the situation I describe. It is neither a design fault or problem.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kjhkent' post='506894' date='Dec 14 2007, 03:17 PM
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The way to check the proper function of the brake servo is to place your foot on the footbrake pedal with engine off. When you start the vehilce the servo will operate and the brake pedal will soften slightly.This is absolutely normal and I would be concerned if this did not happen in the situation I describe. It is neither a design fault or problem.
This test can only tell if brake servo/booster is totally failed (i.e. leak is faster than vancuum generation).

We are talking about slow vacuum leak here.
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