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Old 02-01-2014, 06:05 PM
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Default Goodbye e60, Hello f10!

Well, after three e60s, earlier today I said goodbye to my '08 550 in favor of a 2011 550i sport 6MT. From my e39s to my e60s, it's been a fun ride and the wealth of knowledge I have acquired from this board has been nothing short of amazing. I wish you all the very best with your e60s and I will surely pop by once in a while to see what's what.

Btw, first impressions of the f10 are as follows:

1. MUCH more refined. The interior, the NAV and the overall look and feel are light years ahead of the e60 platform. Also, the f10 is only a few inches wider and longer, but it feels much roomier inside.

2. the f10, even with sport package and dynamic handling package, handles a lot worse than any e60 I have ever driven, and CERTAINLY cannot handle to the e39 in terms of feedback and steering response. I am hoping that lowering springs and an M5 sway will greatly improve this. 21" wheels should help, too.

3. The twin-turbo V8 (N63) is EXTREMELY engaging and pulls a lot harder than the normally aspirated e60 motors. I am very excited to make a push for 500HP with a tune some other sensible mods.

That's all I've got for now...

(I still have my HREs sans tires and TMPS, so if anyone wants to pick up a set of perfect e60 fitment wheels, inquire within.)

Cheers and thank you!
Old 02-01-2014, 07:32 PM
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Good luck. I hope to make the same move sometime soon.
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Yes the F10 is very nice but on our 2011 it had the annoying engine stop that had to be reset each time you started the car. I am sure it could have been programmed out. Now on our 2013 F10 LCI they have coded it so that the switch retains its memory. I am just not a big fan of my engine turning off an on constantly when I stop.

I was just looking at number of members online and E60 has around 68 and F10 has 2! Surely there must be a better site with more activity?
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F10 owners are here --> f10.5post.com/forums/‎
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congratulations on the car. here's to hoping you don't get bitten by the "car pulls - upper control arms are bent" issue that seems to plague a lot of F10 owners.
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congratulations on the car. here's to hoping you don't get bitten by the "car pulls - upper control arms are bent" issue that seems to plague a lot of F10 owners.
Kyle, Please explain I haven't heard of this. The car is not pulling, but this sounds interesting to me.
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Originally Posted by tonyb635
Kyle, Please explain I haven't heard of this. The car is not pulling, but this sounds interesting to me.
google "F10 pulls to the (insert your direction here)"

it is a well documented problem with the F10 chassis. the solution many times is replacement of both upper control arms in the front, on the customer's dime of course. Yes I know people who have been through this; one of them is an SA I know at my local dealer. He's not too happy.

the last time I looked, real OEM shows three different upper control arms for RWD F10 cars, two of which have amounts of camber correction manufactured into the arm.

It's a design flaw in either the chassis or the front suspension geometry, and BMW figured out it was easier to replace arms and bill the customer than admit they made a big boo boo in the design process. google "E46 rear floor class action lawsuit" to see what happens when BMW makes a boo boo in the design process and pisses of just the right amount of people.

don't mean to scare anyone, but the F10 has its flaws too.

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