Iceman

Yep.


Me too.


Yep. The Ring is open to the public on certain dates. Check out their website.

Opening times for the public

BetterMakeWay

The physics show that you should be able to turn faster [due to weight distribution as others have described]; but, there is anecdotal evidence of this as well.

I've seen numbers that show a 545 with a faster lap time at the "ring" than the E39 M5. Certainly the old M5 was a more powerful car than the 545... the common explanation for the E60 getting better times was the increased exit speeds out of the [plethora of] turns on the "ring". Makes me very excited to take my ED 550 out there.... of course I'm sure that I won't be even close to the lap times in question.
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Sorry i simply won't bealive this unless i see it with my own eyes! No ofence but i can't bealive it!
The e39 m5 has alot more power, alot more torque, M specific supensions, performance tires ....should i go on? I bet if this is indeed the case the driver in the m5 was worse than the driver in the 545i. Given equal drivers i simply won't belive the 545i could be faster than e39 M5. Impossible!

Rudy

I don't think it's as impossible as you think...have you driven a 545i with the sport package through some tight turns yet?

BetterMakeWay

I don't think it's as impossible as you think...have you driven a 545i with the sport package through some tight turns yet?
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No...i haven't, nor a e39 M5! Don't get me wrong but i consider an M is still an M even if it was the e39 generation. You don't need to drive those cars because they are not so close. U don't need to drive the old RS4 380hp biturbo or the current S4 to say wich is wich! I strongly backup my previous post...No way with the same driver the e60 would be quicker on a lap than the e39 M5. Just my opinion of course...

GarryF

Dynamic drive is expensive in the UK but a fantastic option, for such a large car it amazes me the amount of times I go into a corner complex with a car on my tail and after coming out they are 100 yards behind,

I would say having the inside tyres on the ground all the time makes a big difference to performance.

BetterMakeWay

Of course! it's like having a couple of tires more! but i wonder how many of us actually make the inner tires loose contact! i mean not just once on a track day...from 100% driving time?
Dynamic drive helps alot with the body roll IMO and this is it's maine purpose. It makes the ride more confotable in that manner!
Too bad DD can't be bought in conjuction with Sport Supension!
Does anybody know why is that?

heezy545i

I've never gone to the point of the tires lifting off the ground, but I have gone to the point to where the body starts to roll.

There is a limit to ARS at which point the body will lean just like any other car.

zag

They keep the roll to 9 degree max. According to BMW- this is necessary to defeat the false sense of security and respect for the law of physics. Imagine if ARS maintain zero roll... we will be seeing bimmers sliding out of a corner from over confident drivers.

BetterMakeWay

I agree! Nor did i reached the point of lifting the tires...in fact almost nobody on this forum did! You have to really push the car to it's limits and beyond to acomplish this! And in an e60 i think it's quite hard to do it, if not impossible for daily drivers like us! It's a very good balanced car not like a regular hatchback that would eventually lift off the back inner tire.

BetterMakeWay

They keep the roll to 9 degree max. According to BMW- this is necessary to defeat the false sense of security and respect for the law of physics. Imagine if ARS maintain zero roll... we will be seeing bimmers sliding out of a corner from over confident drivers.
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i don't think it could be possible to keep it at 0 roll! Don't think we have the technology or if we have it than it would be too expensive! 0 roll is like whatever u do with the car (like pull the handbrake at 120km/h and steer viciously 0 roll) It maight be even dangerous...to avoid flippin the car!