Facelift E60 march 2007
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Ok after reading this post... I am a little concerned.
I am about to purchase a new E60 after my E39 sort of died on me... for the third time... this year.
I have a couple of options, 2005 E60 525i M sport, M54 engine. 2006 525i Msport N52 engine, price difference between them is about $15K. Which one should I choose? I was also offered a 2005 530i Msport wagon for $5K more than the price of the 525i M sport. Hmmmm
Which car do you think I should take? I know that powerchip can bring the N52 525i upto 171Kw almost on par with the 528i. Ditto for the torque.
I am australia. Help! Have to make a decision fairly soon.
I am about to purchase a new E60 after my E39 sort of died on me... for the third time... this year.
I have a couple of options, 2005 E60 525i M sport, M54 engine. 2006 525i Msport N52 engine, price difference between them is about $15K. Which one should I choose? I was also offered a 2005 530i Msport wagon for $5K more than the price of the 525i M sport. Hmmmm
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Which car do you think I should take? I know that powerchip can bring the N52 525i upto 171Kw almost on par with the 528i. Ditto for the torque.
I am australia. Help! Have to make a decision fairly soon.
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Originally Posted by breytonhartge' post='343441' date='Oct 11 2006, 12:15 AM
Ok after reading this post... I am a little concerned.
I am about to purchase a new E60 after my E39 sort of died on me... for the third time... this year.
I have a couple of options, 2005 E60 525i M sport, M54 engine. 2006 525i Msport N52 engine, price difference between them is about $15K. Which one should I choose? I was also offered a 2005 530i Msport wagon for $5K more than the price of the 525i M sport. Hmmmm
Which car do you think I should take? I know that powerchip can bring the N52 525i upto 171Kw almost on par with the 528i. Ditto for the torque.
I am australia. Help! Have to make a decision fairly soon.
I am about to purchase a new E60 after my E39 sort of died on me... for the third time... this year.
I have a couple of options, 2005 E60 525i M sport, M54 engine. 2006 525i Msport N52 engine, price difference between them is about $15K. Which one should I choose? I was also offered a 2005 530i Msport wagon for $5K more than the price of the 525i M sport. Hmmmm
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Which car do you think I should take? I know that powerchip can bring the N52 525i upto 171Kw almost on par with the 528i. Ditto for the torque.
I am australia. Help! Have to make a decision fairly soon.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='341330' date='Oct 3 2006, 04:19 PM
Maybe this?
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Originally Posted by fp60' post='343559' date='Oct 10 2006, 09:06 PM
Attachment 24673
I found this picture (bad quality) of the new stretched 5 series that will be going on sale only in China in 2007. Check out the rear door detail. Except for the extra 5.5 inches, I would assume that this is the new interior door detail refresh for the 5. I would also assume that the center consol will be revised for the new auto drive stick ala new X5.
I found this picture (bad quality) of the new stretched 5 series that will be going on sale only in China in 2007. Check out the rear door detail. Except for the extra 5.5 inches, I would assume that this is the new interior door detail refresh for the 5. I would also assume that the center consol will be revised for the new auto drive stick ala new X5.
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='343271' date='Oct 10 2006, 12:53 AM
when you say Clutch to Clutch is there 2 Clutch in the gearbox? ![Confused](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Clutch-to-clutch operation
The 6L80 s sophistication is exemplified by clutch-to-clutch operation that reduces complexity and packaging. It also enhances the performance feel of the transmission, as shifts feel more immediate and precise.
Clutch-to-clutch operation is achieved with three planetary gears, two stationary clutches and three rotating clutches. It is a simple, less complex design that enables the six-speed transmission to be packaged in a size not much larger than a four-speed automatic. Only the first-to-second upshift is a freewheeling action, where the second gear clutch engages while the first gear one-way clutch spins freely. This allows a greater degree of smoothness at lower vehicle speeds
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Originally Posted by hector' post='343737' date='Oct 11 2006, 08:44 PM
Clutch to clutch is explained below - BUT interestingly, DaimlerChrysel have just announced a brand new manufacturing facility for DSG transmissions for their FWD vehicles!! Without doubt, DSG is the best technology for performance, efficiency & weight.
Clutch-to-clutch operation
The 6L80 s sophistication is exemplified by clutch-to-clutch operation that reduces complexity and packaging. It also enhances the performance feel of the transmission, as shifts feel more immediate and precise.
Clutch-to-clutch operation is achieved with three planetary gears, two stationary clutches and three rotating clutches. It is a simple, less complex design that enables the six-speed transmission to be packaged in a size not much larger than a four-speed automatic. Only the first-to-second upshift is a freewheeling action, where the second gear clutch engages while the first gear one-way clutch spins freely. This allows a greater degree of smoothness at lower vehicle speeds
Clutch-to-clutch operation
The 6L80 s sophistication is exemplified by clutch-to-clutch operation that reduces complexity and packaging. It also enhances the performance feel of the transmission, as shifts feel more immediate and precise.
Clutch-to-clutch operation is achieved with three planetary gears, two stationary clutches and three rotating clutches. It is a simple, less complex design that enables the six-speed transmission to be packaged in a size not much larger than a four-speed automatic. Only the first-to-second upshift is a freewheeling action, where the second gear clutch engages while the first gear one-way clutch spins freely. This allows a greater degree of smoothness at lower vehicle speeds
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I hope the car is nice, but I bought the E60 because of its distinct character. It's easy to make the leap and think that since the most criticized BMW design (E60) is receiving the most drastic mid-model refresh, that it will somehow compromise its purity - its flavor. Why else make such a radical set of changes if not to give it more universal appeal?
I bought a flavor... I hope this March update isn't like switching from Habanero hot sauce to Red Hot.
I bought a flavor... I hope this March update isn't like switching from Habanero hot sauce to Red Hot.
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='343772' date='Oct 11 2006, 10:40 AM
I hope the car is nice, but I bought the E60 because of its distinct character. It's easy to make the leap and think that since the most criticized BMW design (E60) is receiving the most drastic mid-model refresh, that it will somehow compromise its purity - its flavor. Why else make such a radical set of changes if not to give it more universal appeal?
I bought a flavor... I hope this March update isn't like switching from Habanero hot sauce to Red Hot.
I bought a flavor... I hope this March update isn't like switching from Habanero hot sauce to Red Hot.
Which is why I am doing a 2 year lease on my new 07 530
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Originally Posted by unit' post='343595' date='Oct 11 2006, 12:08 AM
The front doors appear to be different as well. It certainly makes sense that they would be launching this car with all the facelift upgrades, and from what I have read about the LWB version, everything from the B pillar forward is standard E60, so these may very well be the new interior door panels.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plu...idg=1&idi=2
Attached are the current and the new interior of the Long Wheelbase (LW) which will be offered in China. Notice the new door detailing. I would assume that this is part of the interior refresh. Please note that the "current" photos show the NASCA leather ventilated seats.
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Yes the doors is like the E92 and I like it a lot
If you look at the E92 headlights and just add the eyebrow there you have the facelift and I still think that they are going too add the rear design aka E65/E92/new X5
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