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Old 03-14-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandog' post='402918' date='Mar 14 2007, 11:25 PM
As in?
545i consumes less fuel than 550i, I think.
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I'd choose the 550i Sport and modified
also the 535D Sport sama as above
but would luv the 535xD or a 540D too if ever they see this plz BWM give us one

ps.M5 I luv but by these petrol prices, for me it better now to have a powerfull diesel, and I admire all of you with the Emmy
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='402964' date='Mar 15 2007, 08:04 AM
ps.M5 I luv but by these petrol prices, for me it better now to have a powerfull diesel, and I admire all of you with the Emmy
The petrol prices are worrying, but what would REALLY annoy me is the range! I drive either very short distances or very long ones. Neither a good recipe for a car doing 20l/100km
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='402967' date='Mar 15 2007, 08:21 AM
The petrol prices are worrying, but what would REALLY annoy me is the range! I drive either very short distances or very long ones. Neither a good recipe for a car doing 20l/100km
Well at least with the you can get to the more frequent refuelling stops more quickly. You just spend more time stationary while refuelling.

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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35' post='402900' date='Mar 14 2007, 10:36 PM
Not really. Someone might think 530i is the best deal, because not everyone is happy or confident enough to buy a turbo-charged vehicle. And they might not think the extra power is worth the extra money. But I agree that some older models have no advantages over some newer models. By the way, 545i still have some advantages over 550i.
Not me.

Who would be unhappy with 300lbs of torque from the 535, super broad torque curve and likely 5 flat in the 60? Only a member of the flat earth society might!!! I'd reckon most trust BMW when it comes to making engines.

BTW, what meaningful advantage does a 545i have over 550 other than price and a 100lbs? The 550 has better reliability, a slightly better interior and more options. The new one is better still.

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Originally Posted by SergeyM' post='402647' date='Mar 14 2007, 04:12 PM
I answered this question many times. In Europe most cars on the road have much smaller engines with less power than cars in US. You may feel just fine driving 520 in UK. In US the most common engine now is 3.5 liter V6 (Toyota Camry/Avalon, Nissan Altima/Maxima, Infiniti G/M, Acura TL-S, Lexus IS/GS/ES and so on and so on). All of them have 250-300 bhp and are much cheaper that E60. With a car like 520 I would feel very uncomfortable in US. BTW the speed limits and top speed are relevant when talking about rather underpowered cars. With more power you talk acceleration numbers not speed. I have no idea what the unrestricted top speed of my 550 would be (175mph?) but I am very well aware that it is not quicker that Lexus IS350 ($40K car) and it makes me want more power. 400 bhp would be about right. I do agree though that if fuel prices in US one day become $8 per gallon we will all be driving diesel or electric cars.
Thanks for your reply - why would you feel uncomfortable in a 520D? It does 0-60 in around 8.5 secs and has enough power for any situation I have encountered in the UK or Europe. Why should things be different in ths US? Maybe you should be looking at your driving style? BTW - I bet the performance of a 520D is similar to many of the 3.5 V6 engines you mention above. To say 400BHP is about right is just crazy in my view.

This will always touch a raw nerve with me. In the UK we are taxed out of driving cars such as 550i's (I've not seen one in the UK) through company car tax rules based on emissions and fuel duty. Meanwhile it seems US consumers are free to polute at will by buying bigger cars with bigger engines, and despite your point above I just don't see why. Also your political leaders get away with ignoring the environmental debate whilst in the UK it looks like we will be more and more taxed on green issues.

One day the US market will have to mature and wake up to these issues. For the sake of the rest of the world I hope it is sooner rather than later.
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Originally Posted by s_henge' post='403418' date='Mar 16 2007, 09:49 AM
Why should things be different in ths US?
Why do WE queue?

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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='403420' date='Mar 16 2007, 09:55 AM
Why do WE queue?

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Don't get me started on that... One of those days so far, I'll calm down by the time I have enough caffeine in me!
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Originally Posted by CVTBenhogan' post='403037' date='Mar 15 2007, 07:26 AM
Not me.

Who would be unhappy with 300lbs of torque from the 535, super broad torque curve and likely 5 flat in the 60? Only a member of the flat earth society might!!! I'd reckon most trust BMW when it comes to making engines.
I am. It is TURBO. Even Audi which seemed to be keen on turbos are done with them, at least in flagship models. Turbo, in my opinion, shows inability to design a good engine and/or lack of desire to provide smaller V8 version. Just let's slap some turbocharger on top of what we have and call it done! Instant increase in power!

I'd rather have 3.5 or 4.0 V8.
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M5 is a first choice.
For a daily driver 530i (06 - 07) with N52 engine.


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