E60 LCI 523i with cylinder injector fault - dealer can't get parts
05-28-2007, 08:40 AM
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Does anybody else have a problem with cylinder injectors with the new direct engines in the E60 LCI 5 series?
I got my car over a month ago and after a few days I noticed that the engine was a little "lumpy" at idle - I have had two 330Ci's before so I know how smooth the BMW 6 should be. Anyway, I told the dealer who said the service manager would contact me - she never did but I was too busy to chase as I had a new baby on the way.
On the very day my wife started to give birth - I was driving home, I braked at some traffic lights and the engine started shaking and shudering VERY violently. I'm guessing that if it had been a manual it wold have cut out. I continued on carefully - the problem wasn't so bad over 2,000 RPM and I was only 5 minutes from the house. I had to take my wife to the hospital in our other car because I didn't trust the BMW. But at least everything worked out well on that front - we have a beautiful new daughter
When I tried to drive the car the next day, it would barely move over 5 miles an hour and was completely unresponsive to the throttle. I called BMW assist the next day because I didn't want to damanage the engine driving it to the dealer. The technician plugged into the OBC and diagnosed a cylinder 1 injector fault. He removed the injector but couldn't find anything obvious. In doing so he switched the car out of limp-home mode and suggested that I could drive the car to the dealer 15 minutes away.
The dealer diagnosed the same problem and said the would order a new injector, gave me a loaner 318i and said it would be fixed in three days. Over two and half weeks later I am still waiting
Neither BMW Ireland, BMW UK nor unbelievably BMW Germany have any injectors in stock because it is a brand new engine type. The dealer appears to be very pro-active and is trying to sort out the problem. They tried to get an injector from one of their new demo 3 series, but the part number is different and the injectors are a different length. I suggested that they could at least get one from the factory but apparently BMW Germany won't do that. The deaer has also told me that they have one other 523i and a 3 series with the same problem. We are still waiting for them to even dispatch the part from Germany!
My question is: does anybody else have his problem or have any words of wisdom?
Many thanks.
I got my car over a month ago and after a few days I noticed that the engine was a little "lumpy" at idle - I have had two 330Ci's before so I know how smooth the BMW 6 should be. Anyway, I told the dealer who said the service manager would contact me - she never did but I was too busy to chase as I had a new baby on the way.
On the very day my wife started to give birth - I was driving home, I braked at some traffic lights and the engine started shaking and shudering VERY violently. I'm guessing that if it had been a manual it wold have cut out. I continued on carefully - the problem wasn't so bad over 2,000 RPM and I was only 5 minutes from the house. I had to take my wife to the hospital in our other car because I didn't trust the BMW. But at least everything worked out well on that front - we have a beautiful new daughter
When I tried to drive the car the next day, it would barely move over 5 miles an hour and was completely unresponsive to the throttle. I called BMW assist the next day because I didn't want to damanage the engine driving it to the dealer. The technician plugged into the OBC and diagnosed a cylinder 1 injector fault. He removed the injector but couldn't find anything obvious. In doing so he switched the car out of limp-home mode and suggested that I could drive the car to the dealer 15 minutes away.
The dealer diagnosed the same problem and said the would order a new injector, gave me a loaner 318i and said it would be fixed in three days. Over two and half weeks later I am still waiting
Neither BMW Ireland, BMW UK nor unbelievably BMW Germany have any injectors in stock because it is a brand new engine type. The dealer appears to be very pro-active and is trying to sort out the problem. They tried to get an injector from one of their new demo 3 series, but the part number is different and the injectors are a different length. I suggested that they could at least get one from the factory but apparently BMW Germany won't do that. The deaer has also told me that they have one other 523i and a 3 series with the same problem. We are still waiting for them to even dispatch the part from Germany!
My question is: does anybody else have his problem or have any words of wisdom?
Many thanks.
05-28-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by darraghn' post='429079' date='May 28 2007, 06:40 PM
Does anybody else have a problem with cylinder injectors with the new direct engines in the E60 LCI 5 series?
I got my car over a month ago and after a few days I noticed that the engine was a little "lumpy" at idle - I have had two 330Ci's before so I know how smooth the BMW 6 should be. Anyway, I told the dealer who said the service manager would contact me - she never did but I was too busy to chase as I had a new baby on the way.
On the very day my wife started to give birth - I was driving home, I braked at some traffic lights and the engine started shaking and shudering VERY violently. I'm guessing that if it had been a manual it wold have cut out. I continued on carefully - the problem wasn't so bad over 2,000 RPM and I was only 5 minutes from the house. I had to take my wife to the hospital in our other car because I didn't trust the BMW. But at least everything worked out well on that front - we have a beautiful new daughter
When I tried to drive the car the next day, it would barely move over 5 miles an hour and was completely unresponsive to the throttle. I called BMW assist the next day because I didn't want to damanage the engine driving it to the dealer. The technician plugged into the OBC and diagnosed a cylinder 1 injector fault. He removed the injector but couldn't find anything obvious. In doing so he switched the car out of limp-home mode and suggested that I could drive the car to the dealer 15 minutes away.
The dealer diagnosed the same problem and said the would order a new injector, gave me a loaner 318i and said it would be fixed in three days. Over two and half weeks later I am still waiting
Neither BMW Ireland, BMW UK nor unbelievably BMW Germany have any injectors in stock because it is a brand new engine type. The dealer appears to be very pro-active and is trying to sort out the problem. They tried to get an injector from one of their new demo 3 series, but the part number is different and the injectors are a different length. I suggested that they could at least get one from the factory but apparently BMW Germany won't do that. The deaer has also told me that they have one other 523i and a 3 series with the same problem. We are still waiting for them to even dispatch the part from Germany!
My question is: does anybody else have his problem or have any words of wisdom?
Many thanks.
I got my car over a month ago and after a few days I noticed that the engine was a little "lumpy" at idle - I have had two 330Ci's before so I know how smooth the BMW 6 should be. Anyway, I told the dealer who said the service manager would contact me - she never did but I was too busy to chase as I had a new baby on the way.
On the very day my wife started to give birth - I was driving home, I braked at some traffic lights and the engine started shaking and shudering VERY violently. I'm guessing that if it had been a manual it wold have cut out. I continued on carefully - the problem wasn't so bad over 2,000 RPM and I was only 5 minutes from the house. I had to take my wife to the hospital in our other car because I didn't trust the BMW. But at least everything worked out well on that front - we have a beautiful new daughter
When I tried to drive the car the next day, it would barely move over 5 miles an hour and was completely unresponsive to the throttle. I called BMW assist the next day because I didn't want to damanage the engine driving it to the dealer. The technician plugged into the OBC and diagnosed a cylinder 1 injector fault. He removed the injector but couldn't find anything obvious. In doing so he switched the car out of limp-home mode and suggested that I could drive the car to the dealer 15 minutes away.
The dealer diagnosed the same problem and said the would order a new injector, gave me a loaner 318i and said it would be fixed in three days. Over two and half weeks later I am still waiting
Neither BMW Ireland, BMW UK nor unbelievably BMW Germany have any injectors in stock because it is a brand new engine type. The dealer appears to be very pro-active and is trying to sort out the problem. They tried to get an injector from one of their new demo 3 series, but the part number is different and the injectors are a different length. I suggested that they could at least get one from the factory but apparently BMW Germany won't do that. The deaer has also told me that they have one other 523i and a 3 series with the same problem. We are still waiting for them to even dispatch the part from Germany!
My question is: does anybody else have his problem or have any words of wisdom?
Many thanks.
Sounds like we're in the same boat!
Mine is in the shop with exactly the same problem (cyl 5 in my case)!
Diagnosed last thursday and today I got a call from my dealer saying that they don't know when they will get a spare injector! Last word was that they suspect it will take atleast another 5 working days!
Crap...I'm driving a Volvo S80 diesel as a loaner, well actually a rental car through BMW assistance...but...I want my baby back! Now!
05-30-2007, 01:04 AM
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Just got a call from my dealer. He said they have temporarily stopped production of the N53 engine in anticipitation of a modified cylinder injector design and to make supply available to those of us off the road across Europe. The parts were due in Germany today so hopefully I?ll get my car back this Friday??.
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Originally Posted by darraghn' post='429779' date='May 30 2007, 11:04 AM
Just got a call from my dealer. He said they have temporarily stopped production of the N53 engine in anticipitation of a modified cylinder injector design and to make supply available to those of us off the road across Europe. The parts were due in Germany today so hopefully I?ll get my car back this Friday??.
They've "borrowed" a injector from a showroom car. So the problem is fixed, for now.
However, manager said that they will probably get instructions that they will change all injectors as soon as they have them ready.
Apparently, BMW will change faulty injectors on some diesels too... I just saw the BMW paper at my dealer.
Main thing is that my baby is back again ..wheee!
06-06-2007, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scandic24' post='429787' date='May 30 2007, 10:32 AM
Just got mine back
They've "borrowed" a injector from a showroom car. So the problem is fixed, for now.
However, manager said that they will probably get instructions that they will change all injectors as soon as they have them ready.
Apparently, BMW will change faulty injectors on some diesels too... I just saw the BMW paper at my dealer.
Main thing is that my baby is back again ..wheee!
They've "borrowed" a injector from a showroom car. So the problem is fixed, for now.
However, manager said that they will probably get instructions that they will change all injectors as soon as they have them ready.
Apparently, BMW will change faulty injectors on some diesels too... I just saw the BMW paper at my dealer.
Main thing is that my baby is back again ..wheee!
Car is still a little "lumpy" at idle. In previous BMW 6 cylinder cars I've owned I found it difficult to tell if the engine was running at idle, with this one it is very obvious. Does anybody lese have the same problem?
PS. No goodwill gesture from BMW despite my brand new car being off the road for three and a half weeks - longer than I had been driving it
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My car has started to show same symptoms as before! 
Engine feels jerky sometimes at low revs.
Just waiting for the "engine fault"-symbol to show up again...
I read that BMW are looking at changing the injectors for new ones w new design. Does anyone know if BMW is getting somewhere with this?
Engine feels jerky sometimes at low revs.
Just waiting for the "engine fault"-symbol to show up again...
I read that BMW are looking at changing the injectors for new ones w new design. Does anyone know if BMW is getting somewhere with this?
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Congrats to your new daughter.
And sorry to hear about your bimmer. I did have a similar problem before but it was not the injector's fault as the service guy can still drive the car but when it's idling is really rough. They said a problem with one of the sensor in the VANOS. Now the car seem to act up again. I find that the idling speed seem to be pretty low at 700rpm and therefore sometime the engine will shrudder at idle and one time the car stall when starting on an incline and I have an auto.
I should check in with the dealer soon as my warranty is about to expire.
And sorry to hear about your bimmer. I did have a similar problem before but it was not the injector's fault as the service guy can still drive the car but when it's idling is really rough. They said a problem with one of the sensor in the VANOS. Now the car seem to act up again. I find that the idling speed seem to be pretty low at 700rpm and therefore sometime the engine will shrudder at idle and one time the car stall when starting on an incline
and I have an auto.I should check in with the dealer soon as my warranty is about to expire.
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Gosh! I thought mine was the only one with this problem. I got my LCI 530i (N53) delivered on April 20th and last week after 1500 miles I got exactly the same symptoms described above, there was a drop in power and vibrations at low revs and idle.
Was told by the dealer that it was a Fuel Injector problem and the part is in global back order and it will take upto 10 working days to get it.
I do really hope that that the comments by a BMW Manager to scandic24 is correct and they will re-design and replace all the injectors.
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ASenna04
Was told by the dealer that it was a Fuel Injector problem and the part is in global back order and it will take upto 10 working days to get it.
I do really hope that that the comments by a BMW Manager to scandic24 is correct and they will re-design and replace all the injectors.
Regards,
ASenna04
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Originally Posted by Scandic24' post='435457' date='Jun 13 2007, 11:05 PM
I read that BMW are looking at changing the injectors for new ones w new design. Does anyone know if BMW is getting somewhere with this?
If it's a batch problem there may be a limited recall taking place at the next service visit.
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='435707' date='Jun 14 2007, 10:25 AM
If it's a design problem there'll be a general recall.
If it's a batch problem there may be a limited recall taking place at the next service visit.
ABC
If it's a batch problem there may be a limited recall taking place at the next service visit.
ABC
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