E60 535d with 6sp manual
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Originally Posted by Lucky' post='356836' date='Nov 16 2006, 04:53 PM
Sorry, my friend, I don't believe that any 330d can really deliver 300 hp and 650 nm of torque. It's a fact that the standard manual gearbox is not designed to handle such a huge torque value and the same is for the clutch, that will worn out very quickly. In any case, unless those car receive plentiful of care and attention and a sort of preplanned, very costly and internsive, maintenance, there very few chances that such an overtuned engine will survive for long.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='356878' date='Nov 16 2006, 07:54 PM
Agree! With this much torque (and more to come) you indeed only have to put it in D and then step on the gas/wait for a second or so and then whooooosh off you go in an endless surge of acceleration. Overtaking is such a joke in those conditions
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='357585' date='Nov 18 2006, 02:25 PM
[snip]I just don't like it that after switching to DS I need to shift up or down to trigger manual mode.
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='357585' date='Nov 18 2006, 06:25 PM
The "wait for a second or so" part is exactly why I'd prefer a manual. Also the fact that I would like it to whoooooosh off in an endless surge of acceleration but it prefers to change down and then go through the gears. I know I can always go to DS and manual mode but I just don't like it that after switching to DS I need to shift up or down to trigger manual mode.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='358070' date='Nov 19 2006, 07:30 PM
[snip] Gearbox works like a charm[snip]
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='358072' date='Nov 19 2006, 11:36 PM
No it don't. Well, mine doesn't. Or at least a different charm. I think I need a recoding/updating, as the car has been running with the same s/w since new (April 05 - V 19.something?), but there's a lot of gearbox lag at low speeds, even in DS.
PS: For the record i only had a transmission slam in the brake-in period. I'm glad it didn't reapeat since. Awfull feeling, just like being hit from behind.
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Originally Posted by Tiago' post='356923' date='Nov 16 2006, 10:29 PM
I think that you are forgetting something: E46 330d has 184hp/192hp and E46 330cd has 204hp. And the two 330cd with 300hp and 650nm are real. The only thing that you need to care is that without a racing clutch you must not pull hard at low rpms above 3rd gear.
All the electronic tuners on the market (well, all the most reputed ones) offer software tuning with, on average, about 15% increase in power and torque. You can squeeze more from your engine, no doubt, but the mechanical reliability will greatly suffer and the driving quality too as well.
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I have a minor beef with mine that it usually tries to start in 2nd gear. If you want to nail it, say turning right out of a side road to fit into a tight gap in the traffic, there's this huge pause while the gearbox "thinks" about a shift into 1st.
Unfortunately, by this time the gap has passed and your left stranded half way accross the junction!
Unfortunately, by this time the gap has passed and your left stranded half way accross the junction!
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='358356' date='Nov 20 2006, 09:34 AM
Odd since my car was built in June or so and we probably have the same software. What do you mean gearbox lag at low speeds? At what rpms or it doesn't matter? Mine does have the lag only in D mode but that's part because of the low rpms at which the car drives most of the time because of the shifting points and D maps but also part the turbo lag. In DS all is cured.
PS: For the record i only had a transmission slam in the brake-in period. I'm glad it didn't reapeat since. Awfull feeling, just like being hit from behind.
PS: For the record i only had a transmission slam in the brake-in period. I'm glad it didn't reapeat since. Awfull feeling, just like being hit from behind.
If I push on the accelerator, then there's no hesitation, and it's DSC time. But the passengers don't always appreciate banging their heads against the headrests.
Once it gets moving, then everything is fine as long as revs don't drop below 1200 or so. Until I try to stop (gently), when I get noticeable - if minor - slam in D, which is due to the car engaging 1st at the wrong moment when stopping (generally too early, i.e. with the car still moving although you are trying to get to a gentle stop). Less apparent in DS and nothing if I use M mode. Clearly a programming problem, rather than a mechanical one. It seems to correspond to what many others have reported also on V8s (which is not surprising, as the 'box is the same)
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='358479' date='Nov 20 2006, 11:47 PM
When I'm at a standstill (in D, DS or M1) and trying to move off gently, it seems to take a while before the transmission "takes" - revs get up to 1500/1800 or so, then the car moves and revs go down. Why on earth does it do that when it has more torque available than a tugboat?
If I push on the accelerator, then there's no hesitation, and it's DSC time. But the passengers don't always appreciate banging their heads against the headrests.
Once it gets moving, then everything is fine as long as revs don't drop below 1200 or so. Until I try to stop (gently), when I get noticeable - if minor - slam in D, which is due to the car engaging 1st at the wrong moment when stopping (generally too early, i.e. with the car still moving although you are trying to get to a gentle stop). Less apparent in DS and nothing if I use M mode. Clearly a programming problem, rather than a mechanical one. It seems to correspond to what many others have reported also on V8s (which is not surprising, as the 'box is the same)
If I push on the accelerator, then there's no hesitation, and it's DSC time. But the passengers don't always appreciate banging their heads against the headrests.
Once it gets moving, then everything is fine as long as revs don't drop below 1200 or so. Until I try to stop (gently), when I get noticeable - if minor - slam in D, which is due to the car engaging 1st at the wrong moment when stopping (generally too early, i.e. with the car still moving although you are trying to get to a gentle stop). Less apparent in DS and nothing if I use M mode. Clearly a programming problem, rather than a mechanical one. It seems to correspond to what many others have reported also on V8s (which is not surprising, as the 'box is the same)
BTW did you notice that when in M1 and you lift off the brake pedal to start moving slowly (like in heavy traffic) the car moves and accelerates way slower than in D or DS?! I didn't get that. I wonder why...