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Old 08-05-2006, 04:48 AM
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Got this (orange) message just after the first 5k k"m:

Driving Stablity -
Drive control system failure. Reduced roadholding stability when cornering. Drive moderately! Have the problem checked by BMW..
Is it a sensor problem or maybe a more serious one in the DSC?

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Hi sorry to see that, did it come up during the drive? or stall position, at restart or during normal operation?

thx and hope soon gets cured
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='319249' date='Aug 5 2006, 05:52 PM
Hi sorry to see that, did it come up during the drive? or stall position, at restart or during normal operation?

thx and hope soon gets cured
It cames up just about 5 sec after I start the car, and it stays there from then on during normal operation.
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Originally Posted by deandona' post='319250' date='Aug 5 2006, 02:57 PM
It cames up just about 5 sec after I start the car, and it stays there from then on during normal operation.
if it is continuesly on I have bad news, take it to dealer as seems more than a glitch in the Idrive menu. Sometimes I got that when to fast the car is switch off, ignition. Then transmission faulty and drive system message appears and the have to take out the key, wait few secs and then no probs. But it came on only two times or three in the past and never again.

But yours seem to be different... any more ideas? still hope soon to be cured.
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that sux. I hope it's not a persistant problem
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Originally Posted by deandona' post='319250' date='Aug 5 2006, 02:57 PM
It cames up just about 5 sec after I start the car, and it stays there from then on during normal operation.
got one today too, take the key out, Wait some sec when u restart it should disappear.
Mine was in for 1st oblig. service...and then I got this too, strange, but no stress if it comes again it goes to the dealer, the only thing is I hate the replacement cars
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Looks like the SZL Module failure - part of steering angle sensor system. This part is in short supply, because of so many E60s with this problem. I had a similar, not identical, warning message and it required replacement of my SZL Module. Also requires reprogramming car's computer system, which can take 1 - 2 days. depending upon problems with computer reprogramming in one or more modules. They had one module on my car give a problem. They did a car battery reset (like a Microsoft Windows re-boot), and then completed the computer reprogramming successfully. I now have CIP (ProgMan) Ver. 22.0.
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Originally Posted by E60VTA' post='319376' date='Aug 5 2006, 04:49 PM
Looks like the SZL Module failure - part of steering angle sensor system. This part is in short supply, because of so many E60s with this problem. I had a similar, not identical, warning message and it required replacement of my SZL Module. Also requires reprogramming car's computer system, which can take 1 - 2 days. depending upon problems with computer reprogramming in one or more modules. They had one module on my car give a problem. They did a car battery reset (like a Microsoft Windows re-boot), and then completed the computer reprogramming successfully. I now have CIP (ProgMan) Ver. 22.0.
had this problem tooo!!!! dont worry, easy fix
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Originally Posted by bmw4life' post='319380' date='Aug 5 2006, 05:03 PM
had this problem tooo!!!! dont worry, easy fix
it might be an easy fix, but here in the states, it's a hard part to find....at least for my service department.....My part (SZL) module was ordered a month ago...and I still don't have it....worse yet, the new service advisor doesn't seem to know how to return phone calls.......It won't go well for him when I fill out the BMWNA survey........
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Originally Posted by bmw4life' post='319380' date='Aug 6 2006, 02:03 AM
had this problem tooo!!!! dont worry, easy fix
Not always so easy. I had the same problem in Germany. Dealer says it effects 2006 5 series... doesn't matter what model or country spec. Parts are in very short supply. Service Manager said BMW is shipping 8000 a week worldwide...??? Anyway, because my 525 has heated stearing, the new module was located in a day. Was told the repair would be 6 hours and after a full day, they gave me a loaner because they needed it a second day to reprogram the computers.

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