Drive Control System Failure
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2 hours at BMW service and the problem was fixed. They were aware of the problem and said they had to change an old part with a newer one. Hope never to see this orange light again.
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I too am now part of the group of SZL failure numbers! Anyway I had seen this fault once about 4 months ago and it never returned but last week it appeared everytime I drove the car.
Called and booked the car in on Monday for today. Dealer just called to say it was all done. I even reported it as an SZL module fault :-)
Anyway does anyone know what the procedure for this is? Does it involve a CIP upgrade? Only hope my DMS hasn't been wiped out.
Called and booked the car in on Monday for today. Dealer just called to say it was all done. I even reported it as an SZL module fault :-)
Anyway does anyone know what the procedure for this is? Does it involve a CIP upgrade? Only hope my DMS hasn't been wiped out.
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This morning on my way to office I get a red symbol of a tilting car and a "Steering Angle" fault message. It went on to say "possible fluid problem," "possible suspension hydraulic failure". "Do Not Drive" "Stop Carefully" "Contact Your BMW Service Center". Scared the #&#@ out of me. Unfortunately I did not use my camera phone and take a pic of the warning.
Immediately headed for the nearest BMW dealership/service center. I never turned off car so they could see the message. Needless to say they could not give me any answers until car is on scope. I got shuttled back home. Now waiting to hear from service advisor.
Immediately headed for the nearest BMW dealership/service center. I never turned off car so they could see the message. Needless to say they could not give me any answers until car is on scope. I got shuttled back home. Now waiting to hear from service advisor.
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Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='323206' date='Aug 16 2006, 05:12 PM
I too am now part of the group of SZL failure numbers! Anyway I had seen this fault once about 4 months ago and it never returned but last week it appeared everytime I drove the car.
Called and booked the car in on Monday for today. Dealer just called to say it was all done. I even reported it as an SZL module fault :-)
Anyway does anyone know what the procedure for this is? Does it involve a CIP upgrade? Only hope my DMS hasn't been wiped out.
Called and booked the car in on Monday for today. Dealer just called to say it was all done. I even reported it as an SZL module fault :-)
Anyway does anyone know what the procedure for this is? Does it involve a CIP upgrade? Only hope my DMS hasn't been wiped out.
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My wife drove it around for about a week and it started acting crazy. The brakes would grab and the power steering would stop working. She said it was really bad when she had to break during a turn. She was in traffic and the person in front of her put on the breaks and she put on her breaks lost her power steering and almost drove into the person next to her. So I drove it to the dealer and it was definitely messed up. Everything would work fine and then the next thing you know the steering would be really, really stiff. The dealer kept the car and gave me a loaner. The part took four weeks and then they needed a couple days to get it working.
I drove it home but there was negative feedback in the steering wheel. My wife drove it for a couple weeks and then told me that at times it is very hard to turn the car and that the breaks were grabbing. I took it for a drive this morning and the car definitely is not right. It would slow down when you first hit the breaks and then the breaks would catch enough to pop your head forward. I took it on some back roads and needed the full power of both of my arms to make a right hand turn at low speed.
I don't know what to do. My wife is scared of the car.
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Originally Posted by TBlax545i' post='323215' date='Aug 16 2006, 12:51 PM
This morning on my way to office I get a red symbol of a tilting car and a "Steering Angle" fault message. It went on to say "possible fluid problem," "possible suspension hydraulic failure". "Do Not Drive" "Stop Carefully" "Contact Your BMW Service Center". Scared the #&#@ out of me. Unfortunately I did not use my camera phone and take a pic of the warning.
Immediately headed for the nearest BMW dealership/service center. I never turned off car so they could see the message. Needless to say they could not give me any answers until car is on scope. I got shuttled back home. Now waiting to hear from service advisor.
Immediately headed for the nearest BMW dealership/service center. I never turned off car so they could see the message. Needless to say they could not give me any answers until car is on scope. I got shuttled back home. Now waiting to hear from service advisor.
I haven't received my car in the states yet but from what I've been able to research thus far it simply means it's low on the hydraulic fluid that is used by the power steering pump and Active Roll Stabilization system. I couldn't see a leak with mine so I'm guessing it was just low from the factory but I'm having it checked when it arrives. In fact, from what others (not many) are posting, most don't seem to have leaks. Clearly I would get it checked by the dealer but I also think the message could be worded a little better. Granted, losing your PS wouldn't be fun but given that most cars don't even warn the driver until they hear a grinding sound, I think the wording in the message is too ominous.
Please post what you find out from the dealer. I'll be anxious to hear what they said.
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Originally Posted by smk' post='323323' date='Aug 16 2006, 04:47 PM
I don't know what to do. My wife is scared of the car.
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Originally Posted by VIIV' post='323425' date='Aug 16 2006, 11:27 PM
Call the dealer, tell them what has happened since. They did replace the SZL? They either have another faulty one installed (did you get the same warning message, or any at all?) or there is another undiagnosed issue. Either way, you need to have them check it out.
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Originally Posted by MikeP123' post='323393' date='Aug 16 2006, 06:47 PM
Did the message say "Steering Angle..." or "Steering and Suspension...". I ask because I got the same message and warning of a possible loss of hydraulic fluid with only 230 miles on my car during ED (Actually in the middle of Munich during rush hour while on my way to drop off the car. Great timing, huh?). It scared the #&#@ out of me as well. I'm half expecting the car to die or that I'm going to loose all steering.
I haven't received my car in the states yet but from what I've been able to research thus far it simply means it's low on the hydraulic fluid that is used by the power steering pump and Active Roll Stabilization system. I couldn't see a leak with mine so I'm guessing it was just low from the factory but I'm having it checked when it arrives. In fact, from what others (not many) are posting, most don't seem to have leaks. Clearly I would get it checked by the dealer but I also think the message could be worded a little better. Granted, losing your PS wouldn't be fun but given that most cars don't even warn the driver until they hear a grinding sound, I think the wording in the message is too ominous.
Please post what you find out from the dealer. I'll be anxious to hear what they said.
I haven't received my car in the states yet but from what I've been able to research thus far it simply means it's low on the hydraulic fluid that is used by the power steering pump and Active Roll Stabilization system. I couldn't see a leak with mine so I'm guessing it was just low from the factory but I'm having it checked when it arrives. In fact, from what others (not many) are posting, most don't seem to have leaks. Clearly I would get it checked by the dealer but I also think the message could be worded a little better. Granted, losing your PS wouldn't be fun but given that most cars don't even warn the driver until they hear a grinding sound, I think the wording in the message is too ominous.
Please post what you find out from the dealer. I'll be anxious to hear what they said.
Will post an update as soon as I get more info. They kept car overnight to update program and update some un-named modules. Still waiting to get the final results.
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Originally Posted by TBlax545i' post='323588' date='Aug 17 2006, 09:02 AM
Will post an update as soon as I get more info. They kept car overnight to update program and update some un-named modules. Still waiting to get the final results.
Picked my car up and all they can tell me is that the steering oil was low. They topped off oil level and did visual inspection of entire ARS system for leaks, non-found, however to clear the two stored faults, 5D60 oil level sensor and 613E Lock mech fault in accordance with SI B32 07 05 they did a complete vehicle programming (Chip 22.01) and encoding plus steering angle sensor calibration which cleared both faults. So far so good.
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