Curious about LOGIC7 Symbol NCS coding
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Without seeming facetious, if you have a "tin ear" (I prefer the term untrained), then just adjust according to your taste. My settings are an attempt to have the sound be as close to the real thing as possible in an impossible venue - the interior of a car. That might not be your goal.
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Frankly I don't remember my settings, so I will have to come back to you about that. I can say that because I wish to hear and know "natural or acoustic" sound, I tend to reduce bass (especially over prominent (booming) bass. Also I cut the treble a bit. I listen mostly to classical music and good jazz.
Without seeming facetious, if you have a "tin ear" (I prefer the term untrained), then just adjust according to your taste. My settings are an attempt to have the sound be as close to the real thing as possible in an impossible venue - the interior of a car. That might not be your goal.
Without seeming facetious, if you have a "tin ear" (I prefer the term untrained), then just adjust according to your taste. My settings are an attempt to have the sound be as close to the real thing as possible in an impossible venue - the interior of a car. That might not be your goal.
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Further to this, as promised, here are the settings for my Logic7 equalizer. The 100 hz is set at -7bars, the 200Hz at -4 bars and the 2000 hz (or the top one, since I forget exactly) is at -2 bars. The rest are at 0 or flat. Also, the usual bass is also trimmed down a bit depending on the source material. All of this to get rid of the annoying "booming" and unnatural bass. Many people, however, enjoy that type of booming bass and can't have enough of it. BTW, the so-called sub-woofers are not real sub-woofers, not by audiophile standards, anyway.
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I run bass and treble flat, balance/fader centered. When I do listen to music in the car I tend to leave the surround modes OFF unless as I mentioned earlier, I'm bored. My rationale for the curve shown is that it retains a degree of the low bass but takes away the mid-bass boominess that (forgive the reference) the "Beats by Dr. Dre" generation* seems to love. The boost to 2k and above is partly to compensate for aging ears (only 54 though).
I run my home 2 channel system with no tone controls - its pre-amp doesn't have a balance control, let along bass/treble knobs. I use the a/d/s/ sub to augment the bottom octave as my Newform R645 speakers drop off below 40Hz. Long term listening has proved to me that the "smiley face" curve so many want on an EQ isn't necessary if your equipment is good. A modicum of adjustment to the upper registers is often done using ridiculously expensive interconnect cables that have varying degrees of attenuation to the HF signals using cable assemblies with higher capacitance. As a kid though, it was "loudness on, bass to 11", much to the consternation of my parents upstairs from my basement lair.
* I have a pair of Bowers & Wilkins P7 headphones that I chose for their flat performance. My 16yo son has Beats. He says my cans have "no balls". I smile...
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Agreed, but but no hacking could get the bass to be smooth to lower than 90 Hz in the E60. Because of the dimensions of the interior of the car, the bass will start to roll off at about 12db/octave under 90 Hz, hence -12db at 45 Hz and -20db at 30 Hz. One can't correct that with an equalizer without some serious amp power. more than what our alternator can supply, anyway!
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My Ride: Bmw e60 530d xdrive. Sport seats and xenon lights, lol.
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Further to this, as promised, here are the settings for my Logic7 equalizer. The 100 hz is set at -7bars, the 200Hz at -4 bars and the 2000 hz (or the top one, since I forget exactly) is at -2 bars. The rest are at 0 or flat. Also, the usual bass is also trimmed down a bit depending on the source material. All of this to get rid of the annoying "booming" and unnatural bass. Many people, however, enjoy that type of booming bass and can't have enough of it. BTW, the so-called sub-woofers are not real sub-woofers, not by audiophile standards, anyway.
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Hi, my 2009 E61 has the Individual Audio option in it. I was doing some NCS coding to disable the legal notice when the iDrive starts up and I noticed the option: DISPLAY_LOG7_SYMBOL_CHAMP. For kicks I set it to be active. What I noticed is that on the Surround Settings tab in my audio options that there is the LOGIC7 logo in addition to different surround options. Before I had
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were you able to code out the legal disclaimer?? I’ve tried using ncs expert and dummy but it keeps resetting and activating them again. Was there only one module (cappl) or did you have to code the other modules also? On the cappl, I tried nicht _aktiv on the legal disclaimer and also tried to change on the legal disclaimer timeout option
MACRO_CAM_LEGALDISCLAIMER
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MACRO_NIVICAM_LDISCLAIMER
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When I used to have MASK (which is likely very similar to CCC) I believe I set this option:
LEGAL_DISCL_TIMEOUT_CH
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didn’t work for me. I’ll try again tomorrow
inpa is good. Opened ncs expert
load profile>ncexpert
f1 f3 e60 cas
back>process ecu> cappl>change job codieren lesen
read ecu and closed the popup
opened trc file
Legal disclaimer nicht_aktiv
legal disclaimer kein_ld
saved as .man
went back to ncs expert
basic functions coapireadgetsfwpsw
change job sgcoderien
execute job and waited for coding ended
cycled the car and it was off but a few hours later it appeared again
inpa is good. Opened ncs expert
load profile>ncexpert
f1 f3 e60 cas
back>process ecu> cappl>change job codieren lesen
read ecu and closed the popup
opened trc file
Legal disclaimer nicht_aktiv
legal disclaimer kein_ld
saved as .man
went back to ncs expert
basic functions coapireadgetsfwpsw
change job sgcoderien
execute job and waited for coding ended
cycled the car and it was off but a few hours later it appeared again
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