Crashed it. 2005 545i
01-01-2009, 06:42 AM
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Glad to hear you were ok. That sounds really scary. The black ice is the most treacherous part of winter driving, I live in Minnesota. Glad to hear the BMW was stout enough to protect you. Most RWD Bimmer owners here in the Great White North use winter tires however even they aren't full proof on the black ice.
01-01-2009, 01:29 PM
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Sorry to hear about your mishap. Atleast you are okey, and that is the important thing. We have a similar situation here in Chicago a few days ago were it rained late night and extremely cold temp overnight. A recipe for black ice road. IDOT shot down 157 miles of highway to prevent more accidents. TV news footage of the road shows drifting and sudden 180 turns and even rollovers.
01-01-2009, 03:27 PM
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Glad to hear you're okay. I craked up yesterday too, same storm I guess. I guess January is better than June not to have my car.
01-02-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by doctors4bob' post='753921' date='Dec 27 2008, 11:45 PM
There were plenty of SUV's flying by me. The rear end just lost traction. I can't explain it any other way. I didn't actually *see* the ice, I just assumed it.
Good luck.....
01-06-2009, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ENstig8or' post='754144' date='Dec 28 2008, 08:57 AM
I traded in an AWD '04 Yukon Denali for my BMW. It would slide on ice just as much as any car. I was driving to work the other morning and hit a patch of black ice on a small, short bridge, much the same as you described, and I could feel the car lose grip. I was only going 40 tops and the reason I didn't spin was that the bridge was only 10 feet long. The XI didn't and wasn't going to help me.
The only things that do well on ice are ICE SKATES!
The only things that do well on ice are ICE SKATES!
I do think that the RWD played a large part in this. Obviously the tires too. But I could literally feel the back end just lose its traction in a way I couldn't imagine a FWD or AWD doing.
I got the estimate back. Initially it was $4100 - at a Certified BMW Body Shop. They opened the car up and now its up to $10,000.
Ugh.
01-06-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IceyTys' post='754173' date='Dec 28 2008, 10:29 AM
As others have state, I think two factors played into your situation....not the proper tires and and some sort of acceleration, turn, or hard brake on a slippery patch of snow/ice mix. I can tell you folks in Denver are not immune to spin outs regardless of 4WD or tires, ice is ice.
What I typically do if I am running up on a questionable area of the road...is to just let off the gas and let the cars momentum take you through the area in question. If your are not changing the car's direction of travel or adding or subtracting from the car's momentum, then its path will continue to be true.
Glad to hear your okay.....and regarding your lazy statement, just do what I did. I bought a used Toyota 4runner for about $2000, probably the price you'd be pay for a good winter set up (wheels/tires). That way, aside from having something to drive in the soup when its dicey outside, you not only dont worry about yourself, but others who may smash into you. Best insurance you could ever ask for.
totally worth it!
Good luck in your next car purchase....but you cant blame the RWD. Just like anything else, there's limits.
What I typically do if I am running up on a questionable area of the road...is to just let off the gas and let the cars momentum take you through the area in question. If your are not changing the car's direction of travel or adding or subtracting from the car's momentum, then its path will continue to be true.
Glad to hear your okay.....and regarding your lazy statement, just do what I did. I bought a used Toyota 4runner for about $2000, probably the price you'd be pay for a good winter set up (wheels/tires). That way, aside from having something to drive in the soup when its dicey outside, you not only dont worry about yourself, but others who may smash into you. Best insurance you could ever ask for.
totally worth it!Good luck in your next car purchase....but you cant blame the RWD. Just like anything else, there's limits.
On the "ease off the gas approach" - that would have worked, except I didn't see the black ice. It was "wintry" out. I am obviously a numb-nuts for taking this car out but if you were in the car with me 5 seconds before it spun out - like me - you wouldn't have any idea what was about to happen.
01-06-2009, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by amigo525' post='754208' date='Dec 28 2008, 11:35 AM
Sorry for learning the hardway not to drive RWD in snow and maybe with not proper tires ?
They call me "chicken at work". Whenever I hear any rumor about snow or ice, I stay working from home? Will continue to do that until I get an xi or X5.
My 2 cents. (advice from the chicken with no head)
They call me "chicken at work". Whenever I hear any rumor about snow or ice, I stay working from home? Will continue to do that until I get an xi or X5.
My 2 cents. (advice from the chicken with no head)
01-06-2009, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iCharles' post='754359' date='Dec 28 2008, 02:35 PM
I am really sorry to hear about your misfortune. I am glad you are ok, and for your sake I hope the insurance totals it out so you can move on from a car you no longer trust.
But, keep one thing in mind, these car weren't designed and built in Saudi Arabia. Germany is a winter wonderland - and a lot of that is taken into consideration. I believe this was a fluke, and the car saved you from more injury that it's design caused for you.
Moral of the story, move to California.
But, keep one thing in mind, these car weren't designed and built in Saudi Arabia. Germany is a winter wonderland - and a lot of that is taken into consideration. I believe this was a fluke, and the car saved you from more injury that it's design caused for you.
Moral of the story, move to California.
Now that I have some distance from the accident, I don't think I'd drive anything but a 5-series.
01-06-2009, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Moe' post='755008' date='Dec 29 2008, 11:28 AM
Sorry to hear that and gald you and no one got hurt, but I thought DSC/DCT are desgined to handle this type of sitiuations which they do @ 50 mph on rain storms.