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Old 03-02-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JStraw' post='248762' date='Mar 2 2006, 04:58 PM
What is their methodology for collection and analysis of the data??

For instance, the same "problem" could occur in a e60 and a Toyota Camry, (parcel shelf rattle, creaks, etc), but would most Camry owners even care and report it?? On the other hand, we e60 owners are pretty picky about things (at least quite a few of us are) and we try to get our cars perfect. In this situation, it would be one point against BMW. How can you put a Camry or Accord in the same category as a BMW?? They are not even in the same class, even without the V8.
Some are too picky might i add...and some are insane picky...
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Originally Posted by Centurion' post='248778' date='Mar 2 2006, 04:08 PM
Problem solved!

I just ran down to the garage and pulled out two cylinders from my engine.
My car is reliable again. Yay!
If you pulled out other 2 cylinders, your car will be no longer a BMW which does not have V6 .
You'd rather add another two cylinders to make it V10 and put M5 badge on
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Originally Posted by MALEKMAN' post='248738' date='Mar 2 2006, 05:35 PM
Your E60 with V8 is on of the least reliable among all sedans and the worst in BMW lineup as reported by Consumer Magazine.
Personally, can?t argue with this conclusion.

Consumer Reports
Who cares! I own an 03 Audi and been in the repair shop 6 times. Its been bullet proof the last two years. Guess what, I don't care and its fixed under warranty. Everytime a G35, Lexus IS (older version of course), and TL/RL (any version) goes by I'm glad its not in my driveway. Quality is in the driving experience and feel to me.

I don't buy into Consumer Reports view on quality, otherwise why not drive a Buick, which was rated high in past. The 5er and 3er generally are rated tops for what counts. Aye.

Of course, take away the waranty and I'll sing a different tune.
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Reliabilty as far as WHAT??????? They say least, but don't qualify what they say???
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Originally Posted by Mr 5er' post='248907' date='Mar 2 2006, 07:41 PM
Reliabilty as far as WHAT??????? They say least, but don't qualify what they say???
Check out their annual CAR Issue. They lists all the problems that to them qualify for unreliability.
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='248881' date='Mar 2 2006, 04:56 PM
If you pulled out other 2 cylinders, your car will be no longer a BMW which does not have V6 .
You'd rather add another two cylinders to make it V10 and put M5 badge on
I'm accepting donations now as we speak. [runs back into garage to reinstall cylinders and drilling holes for 2 more].
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Originally Posted by kmslo530i' post='248839' date='Mar 2 2006, 07:22 PM
If you do that, you will have to change your name!! V-nine....hmm.....not the same!!
Good one :
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Originally Posted by MALEKMAN' post='248738' date='Mar 2 2006, 01:35 PM
Your E60 with V8 is on of the least reliable among all sedans and the worst in BMW lineup as reported by Consumer Magazine.
Personally, can?t argue with this conclusion.

Consumer Reports
Right..... Next time I want to buy a fridge I'll check out the recommendations in Car and Driver
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Originally Posted by JStraw' post='248762' date='Mar 2 2006, 03:58 PM
What is their methodology for collection and analysis of the data??

For instance, the same "problem" could occur in a e60 and a Toyota Camry, (parcel shelf rattle, creaks, etc), but would most Camry owners even care and report it?? On the other hand, we e60 owners are pretty picky about things (at least quite a few of us are) and we try to get our cars perfect. In this situation, it would be one point against BMW. How can you put a Camry or Accord in the same category as a BMW?? They are not even in the same class, even without the V8.
Quite true! However, same thing applies to Lexus, Jaguar, Porsche, etc.
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