Confused about a car I saw today
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I am, for the second time in a month, about to buy an 08 535 or 550. Someone blew a red light and totalled my first one within 6 hours of leaving the lot :-(
Anyway, there's a Monaco Blue 535i with gray leather, 31k and a manual tranny at a local bmw dealer. I only got a brief look at it as they started giving it a facelift, but I noted the M-Sport shift knob and lack of model designation on the back. I asked about the previous owner, noting the old plate was from California, and the salesman said it had the M-Sport package.
I didn't see any other M designations anywhere else on the car, and I figured an M-Sport package would have some kind of aero kit, which I didn't see.
Was there even an M-Sport option for the 08 535? What should I be looking for to identify it. My instincts tell me the last owner just swapped out shift knobs to feel like a hero . . .
Also, while on topic, this salesman showed me an 08 with all the options and only 28k miles. He claimed the car was picked up by the dealership for about $35k. It was offered up on autotrader for 38000. I told him his dealorship would be out of business in 6 months if they actually bought cars at those prices, etc. . . The carfax shows this car to have been a lease through the same dealorship, and presumably a giveback at the end of the lease (about a month ago).
Anyone care to guess for me what their residual would probably be for a 2008 535i after 36 months or so (assuming a 12k/year term)?
Anyway, there's a Monaco Blue 535i with gray leather, 31k and a manual tranny at a local bmw dealer. I only got a brief look at it as they started giving it a facelift, but I noted the M-Sport shift knob and lack of model designation on the back. I asked about the previous owner, noting the old plate was from California, and the salesman said it had the M-Sport package.
I didn't see any other M designations anywhere else on the car, and I figured an M-Sport package would have some kind of aero kit, which I didn't see.
Was there even an M-Sport option for the 08 535? What should I be looking for to identify it. My instincts tell me the last owner just swapped out shift knobs to feel like a hero . . .
Also, while on topic, this salesman showed me an 08 with all the options and only 28k miles. He claimed the car was picked up by the dealership for about $35k. It was offered up on autotrader for 38000. I told him his dealorship would be out of business in 6 months if they actually bought cars at those prices, etc. . . The carfax shows this car to have been a lease through the same dealorship, and presumably a giveback at the end of the lease (about a month ago).
Anyone care to guess for me what their residual would probably be for a 2008 535i after 36 months or so (assuming a 12k/year term)?
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The e60 did not have the M-Sport designation till I believe 2010. The sport package with the M-tech front/rear bumper and side skirts and //M wheel is commonly known as the M-sport package. In the past, they would add a trim level called the M-sport package which would be new bumpers and side skirts, do some //M wheels, steering wheel and shifter. M-Sport = M-Tech bumpers, side skirts, //M 172 Wheels and maybe SAT.
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My Ride: 2008 550i Sport
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My Ride: 2010 535i M Sport 6MT
Model Year: 2010
2010 BMW 5-Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
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2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
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2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
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2010 BMW 5-Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
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2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
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2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
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Awesome info! Thanks a lot.
2010 BMW 5-Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
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2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [4MS] Pentan Aluminum Trim And [775] Anthracite Headliner; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Excludes: [611] Night Vision
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2009 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Shadowline trim; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Sport alternate suspension; Sports steering wheel; Includes: [456] Multi-Contour Seats And [2SE] 18" Star Spoke Alloy Wheels (Style 246) w/ Run-Flat Performance Tires; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery
ZMP M Sport Package - $4,500
Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam; Shadowline trim; Pentan aluminum trim; M steering wheel; Aerodynamic package; Anthracite headliner; Active Roll Stabilization (ARS); Sport alternate suspension; Includes: [ZSP] Sport Package And [456] Multi-Contour Seats
--
2008 BMW 5 Series Packages
ZMP (not available this model year)
ZSP Sport Package - $2,900
Sport alternate suspension; Roll stability control; Sports steering wheel; Front and rear alloy wheels with 18 inch rim diam and 8.0 inch rim width; Front and rear run flat/punctureproof tires with 245 mm tire width, 40% tire profile and W tire rating; Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel; Shadowline trim; Aerodynamic Package; Includes: [456] Multi Contour Seats; Requires: [LC_] Dakota Leather Upholstery; Or [ZPP] Premium Package
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