Car theft prevention?
05-09-2005, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ricky' date='May 9 2005, 10:17 PM
[quote name='Rudy' date='May 9 2005, 10:03 PM']How long before someone, maybe BMW includes some sort of biometric device to allow for a truly keyless experience?? As a side benefit, it would be nice to be able to tell the valet -- "sorry, you can't park my car..." 
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[/quote]Ha Ha!
Biometrics is my business & you just raised the #1 most FAQ.
We do for example, have fake & dead finger detection capabilities in our systems, but the concern is still that the criminals will still be stupid enough to try
05-09-2005, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by garehaan' date='May 9 2005, 11:43 AM
GPS tracking is very easy to disable, they just duck tape a leaf of lead on the antenna.? 
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But if you install it aftermarket, he doesn't know it's there and how it looks and where it is, so he can't disable it!
05-11-2005, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='May 9 2005, 05:56 PM
[quote name='garehaan' date='May 9 2005, 11:43 AM']GPS tracking is very easy to disable, they just duck tape a leaf of lead on the antenna.?
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But if you install it aftermarket, he doesn't know it's there and how it looks and where it is, so he can't disable it!
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[/quote]had our two BMW's(530 and 320 Conv) stolen couple years back from our drive.... boke in house... got keys and off!!! luckily (or not - depends how you view how desperate they are for your cars) we were not home. Just for the record - got the 5 series back but conv was found 1 1/2 years later in southern spain!!
since then new cars are now trackered (GPS satelite), house is more securely alarmed and have a telescopic post on the drive - and probably the best of the lot nice german shepherd!!!
05-11-2005, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='May 9 2005, 11:56 PM
[quote name='garehaan' date='May 9 2005, 11:43 AM']GPS tracking is very easy to disable, they just duck tape a leaf of lead on the antenna.?
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But if you install it aftermarket, he doesn't know it's there and how it looks and where it is, so he can't disable it!
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[/quote]there is one in Uk they CANNOT not even if they put it in low garage in alu truck wagon etc.. globetroter or tracer I will have a look.
In Belgium they invented-no kidding- a system works w fingerprints you can set more people -like wife friend kids-and!! also set speed limits will have a look who does it here but it is true it works, even if they get you by the red light if the door is opened and closed again it is activated.
05-12-2005, 10:53 AM
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Sorry about your ordeal. I have a friend who has a special alarm that requires the driver to press a certain button in the car (could be a volume, window, sunroof....) the installing company decides which button at the end of installation. Anyway, you start the car with your key and then at a random time a beep goes off and if you don't press the required button (more than once, but randomly decided by installer). The car stops and if there is a NAV system, it will be turned on for tracking.
Just to let you know, the guy drives a new Porsche 911 Turbo and has been car-jacked 4 times with a 100% recovery rate. He is so confident that he basically gives his key.
I'm convinced.
Just to let you know, the guy drives a new Porsche 911 Turbo and has been car-jacked 4 times with a 100% recovery rate. He is so confident that he basically gives his key.
I'm convinced.
05-12-2005, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by arta-bmw57' date='May 9 2005, 06:04 AM
:'(? :'( :'(
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I am with the people who leave the keys downstairs. If they are in my house (with the alarm screaming hopefully), by all means take the F&#@in car. I'll be upstairs behind a door with a baseball bat and if they come looking for me, they are going to get my power swing in the chops.
Around here, I think most car thieves could not be considered "professionals". Most are either kids wanting to joyride or losers wanting getaway cars for stealing things. Either way they tend to take easier marks than BMWs - not that it never happens.
05-12-2005, 01:11 PM
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530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by ricky' date='May 9 2005, 09:17 PM
[quote name='Rudy' date='May 9 2005, 10:03 PM']How long before someone, maybe BMW includes some sort of biometric device to allow for a truly keyless experience?? As a side benefit, it would be nice to be able to tell the valet -- "sorry, you can't park my car..."
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Beware bad guy will stole/cut "your bio component"
to start car engine :'( [snapback]126205[/snapback]
[/quote]nope man a world invention 1st is here in BE the car only starts for those who are set by the owner in the system and it checks the blood circulation... so if they cut down the fingers it still will not start
this is true no joke the problem is that it is not yet out for individuals but hope w time someone will sell it...
05-12-2005, 05:14 PM
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Move to a better neighborhood, maybe?
That sort of thing never happens here. I don't even lock my house.
That sort of thing never happens here. I don't even lock my house.
05-13-2005, 07:33 AM
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For great car security, you can always disable the interior motion sensor and leave a Rottweiler in the car. Seems to be effective, but you must leave the sunroof open and water and food. Don't forget a 'wee pad' on the backseat to avoid ugly messes...It's a great deterrent.
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Originally Posted by mclc26' date='May 13 2005, 05:33 PM
For great car security, you can always disable the interior motion sensor and leave a Rottweiler in the car.? Seems to be effective, but you must leave the sunroof open and water and food.? Don't forget a 'wee pad' on the backseat to avoid ugly messes...It's a great deterrent.
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